RISKS

Feb 25, 2020 at 06:47 AM CST + 7 - 5
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I don't know why drivers, and their companies accept these low, low rates. Do y'all not know our risk? It's always the truckers fault !!! At least that's the public POV. Remember that when your negotiating rates. RISKS ARE TO HIGH.

Replied on Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 12:04 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Very true! Good point.

Replied on Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 01:47 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Very true! Good point. " Yup, if you are driving on snow / ice at 5mph and still fall off the road, insurance companies and safety directors state you are driving too fast for conditions.

Replied on Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 02:15 PM CST + 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Called on some loads today. Rates are diving lower and lower! When I said that the rate was not good enough I was told "We will find a truck that the rate is good enough for". Needless to say, my truck is still sitting.

Replied on Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:07 AM CST + 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Called on some loads today. Rates are diving lower and lower! When I said that the rate was not good enough I was told "We will find a truck that the rate is good enough for". Needless to say, my truck is still sitting." Ed, what he/she said was true, which is why i'm staying in the refer business. Too many "stupid" drivers, O/O's, in bulk loads not realising they are cutting their own throats by hauling so cheap. I still say NO ONE should haul anything for less than $35 a ton, or $2.25 a mile, which ever is greater. If every one told shippers/brokers that this is their rate, we'd see a change in what loads are offered for. And I'd bet it would take a short time for this to happen.

Replied on Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:07 AM CST

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Quote: "Called on some loads today. Rates are diving lower and lower! When I said that the rate was not good enough I was told "We will find a truck that the rate is good enough for". Needless to say, my truck is still sitting."

Ed, what he/she said was true, which is why i'm staying in the refer business. Too many "stupid" drivers, O/O's, in bulk loads not realising they are cutting their own throats by hauling so cheap. I still say NO ONE should haul anything for less than $35 a ton, or $2.25 a mile, which ever is greater. If every one told shippers/brokers that this is their rate, we'd see a change in what loads are offered for. And I'd bet it would take a short time for this to happen.

Replied on Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 07:49 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Want to make $1000000 driving a truck it's very easy to do start with 2 million

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 12:13 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. It’s taken 40 years, but the end is very close, the government has lost all control over the trucking industry, it’s become the Wild West, drivers are now routinely shot, stabbed or beaten over parking spots, the turnover rate is astronomical, carriers are unable to control the drivers, FMCSA is unable to control the shippers, brokers, or carriers, accident rates are through the roof, insurance companies are running for the door, nobody can speak English or read road signs, everyone is working for rates that are 40 years old. How much farther can this go?

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 12:13 PM CST

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It’s taken 40 years, but the end is very close, the government has lost all control over the trucking industry, it’s become the Wild West, drivers are now routinely shot, stabbed or beaten over parking spots, the turnover rate is astronomical, carriers are unable to control the drivers, FMCSA is unable to control the shippers, brokers, or carriers, accident rates are through the roof, insurance companies are running for the door, nobody can speak English or read road signs, everyone is working for rates that are 40 years old. How much farther can this go?

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 01:08 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. So we all see the problem,everybody comes on here and gripes about it,but nobody does a damn thing about it.Start boycotting these scum of the earth brokers.There is a solution to every problem,stop hauling cheap loads!!!!!!!!

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 03:00 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. That 2.25 is way to cheap. That is the number we try to get on all miles. We don't always get there but at 72% loaded miles we do it most of the time. Just say no .

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 03:15 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "It’s taken 40 years, but the end is very close, the government has lost all control over the trucking industry, it’s become the Wild West, drivers are now routinely shot, stabbed or beaten over parking spots, the turnover rate is astronomical, carriers are unable to control the drivers, FMCSA is unable to control the shippers, brokers, or carriers, accident rates are through the roof, insurance companies are running for the door, nobody can speak English or read road signs, everyone is working for rates that are 40 years old. How much farther can this go?" The end began in 1860, my friend. The conclusion is indeed near. However, it's not the transportation industry that's ending. It's the carcass of this nation that is finally going to return to land from which it sprouted. In 2045 a new regime will be in place in it's entirety.

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 03:15 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "It’s taken 40 years, but the end is very close, the government has lost all control over the trucking industry, it’s become the Wild West, drivers are now routinely shot, stabbed or beaten over parking spots, the turnover rate is astronomical, carriers are unable to control the drivers, FMCSA is unable to control the shippers, brokers, or carriers, accident rates are through the roof, insurance companies are running for the door, nobody can speak English or read road signs, everyone is working for rates that are 40 years old. How much farther can this go?"

The end began in 1860, my friend. The conclusion is indeed near. However, it's not the transportation industry that's ending. It's the carcass of this nation that is finally going to return to land from which it sprouted. In 2045 a new regime will be in place in it's entirety.

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 07:17 PM CST + 1 - 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. It appears the stress of the new Nazi regime is causing truckers to go postal, there is a story on TNN about how a Ohio state trooper was stabbed in the neck with a screw driver by a trucker from Illinois, and there is also a video of it over on YouTube. Then there is another story about a trucker In Memphis, who shot and killed a furniture store owner, over a dispute on how to load the truck. Truckers are not just going after truckers, they are going after law enforcement and shippers or receivers. Government has lost total control over the situation, their response to the problems is to dump more gas on the fire, create more stress and hostility by going on a big 13 state enforcement blitz, then act totally amazed when the body bags pile up. Meanwhile the dipshits who came up with the ELD, are working on a plan to put convicts in trucks? Who are we to question such geniuses?

Replied on Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 07:17 PM CST

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It appears the stress of the new Nazi regime is causing truckers to go postal, there is a story on TNN about how a Ohio state trooper was stabbed in the neck with a screw driver by a trucker from Illinois, and there is also a video of it over on YouTube. Then there is another story about a trucker In Memphis, who shot and killed a furniture store owner, over a dispute on how to load the truck. Truckers are not just going after truckers, they are going after law enforcement and shippers or receivers. Government has lost total control over the situation, their response to the problems is to dump more gas on the fire, create more stress and hostility by going on a big 13 state enforcement blitz, then act totally amazed when the body bags pile up. Meanwhile the dipshits who came up with the ELD, are working on a plan to put convicts in trucks? Who are we to question such geniuses?

Replied on Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 07:37 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "It appears the stress of the new Nazi regime is causing truckers to go postal, there is a story on TNN about how a Ohio state trooper was stabbed in the neck with a screw driver by a trucker from Illinois, and there is also a video of it over on YouTube. Then there is another story about a trucker In Memphis, who shot and killed a furniture store owner, over a dispute on how to load the truck. Truckers are not just going after truckers, they are going after law enforcement and shippers or receivers. Government has lost total control over the situation, their response to the problems is to dump more gas on the fire, create more stress and hostility by going on a big 13 state enforcement blitz, then act totally amazed when the body bags pile up. Meanwhile the dipshits who came up with the ELD, are working on a plan to put convicts in trucks? Who are we to question such geniuses?" Nazi regime? It's MARXISM 100 percent. You think Bernie, AOC, Pocahantas, Ginsburg and their ilk are "Nazis"? You think our education system and media are pushing a Nazi agenda? Again, it's 100 percent Marxist, sir. Read "The Ten Planks of Communism" and/or "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx then come back and tell us it's a "Nazi" regime taking over with a straight face. Personally, the store owner probably would have faired better if he was also carrying. That's what the Second Amendment is for...defense. The Ohio trooper may have gotten what he deserved. The last time I was stopped in Ohio was for 70 in a 55. It was a bold faced lie! I seriously considered turning him into a pincusion myself. There have always been bad people in the world but if we don't defend ourrselves from them then we get what we deserve. Convicts have always been in trucks. Western Express is pretty much all felons. They're well known for it. If you really want to get your mind blown read the UN's Agenda 21 and you'll see how both sides in the US are helping make the agenda a reality. The Left has been taken over by Marxists and the Right has been commandeered by Globalists. BOTH are using Marxist protocols to bring down the First world nations. Did you know that in 2016 Whites were the minority birthrate in the US? Did you know that in 2045 Whites will be replaced by Latinos as the American majority? This is due to the Immigration Act of 1965 that our Marxist friends the hippies made happen. I didn't know Nazis were so found of Latinos that they would give their entire country and birthrights away to them. I have no ill feelings to any Latinos nor police but what's happening is the truth and undeniable. To ignore it is foolish and suicidal. We are indeed nearing the official collapse of the US Consitutionally. I governement is slowly replacing it. Piece by piece they are dismantling our surrent system and putting another in. Ask yourself this; have we gained any more freedoms since 1776 or have we lost some? This trend of losing and population replacement is the smoking gun.

Replied on Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 07:37 AM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "It appears the stress of the new Nazi regime is causing truckers to go postal, there is a story on TNN about how a Ohio state trooper was stabbed in the neck with a screw driver by a trucker from Illinois, and there is also a video of it over on YouTube. Then there is another story about a trucker In Memphis, who shot and killed a furniture store owner, over a dispute on how to load the truck. Truckers are not just going after truckers, they are going after law enforcement and shippers or receivers. Government has lost total control over the situation, their response to the problems is to dump more gas on the fire, create more stress and hostility by going on a big 13 state enforcement blitz, then act totally amazed when the body bags pile up. Meanwhile the dipshits who came up with the ELD, are working on a plan to put convicts in trucks? Who are we to question such geniuses?"

Nazi regime? It's MARXISM 100 percent. You think Bernie, AOC, Pocahantas, Ginsburg and their ilk are "Nazis"? You think our education system and media are pushing a Nazi agenda? Again, it's 100 percent Marxist, sir. Read "The Ten Planks of Communism" and/or "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx then come back and tell us it's a "Nazi" regime taking over with a straight face.

Personally, the store owner probably would have faired better if he was also carrying. That's what the Second Amendment is for...defense. The Ohio trooper may have gotten what he deserved. The last time I was stopped in Ohio was for 70 in a 55. It was a bold faced lie! I seriously considered turning him into a pincusion myself. There have always been bad people in the world but if we don't defend ourrselves from them then we get what we deserve. Convicts have always been in trucks. Western Express is pretty much all felons. They're well known for it.

If you really want to get your mind blown read the UN's Agenda 21 and you'll see how both sides in the US are helping make the agenda a reality. The Left has been taken over by Marxists and the Right has been commandeered by Globalists. BOTH are using Marxist protocols to bring down the First world nations. Did you know that in 2016 Whites were the minority birthrate in the US? Did you know that in 2045 Whites will be replaced by Latinos as the American majority? This is due to the Immigration Act of 1965 that our Marxist friends the hippies made happen. I didn't know Nazis were so found of Latinos that they would give their entire country and birthrights away to them.

I have no ill feelings to any Latinos nor police but what's happening is the truth and undeniable. To ignore it is foolish and suicidal. We are indeed nearing the official collapse of the US Consitutionally. I governement is slowly replacing it. Piece by piece they are dismantling our surrent system and putting another in. Ask yourself this; have we gained any more freedoms since 1776 or have we lost some? This trend of losing and population replacement is the smoking gun.

Replied on Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 02:55 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. 1 problem is the lack of caring about anything. I passed a driver that had his phone on a holder above his steering wheel and he was watching a movie. Nobody has skin in the game anymore. Being an owner op you have everything pointed at you like RESPONSIBILITY for safety and financial. It all boils down to a lack of responsibility and it will only get worse with these stupid electronic devices like phones and elds.

Replied on Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 02:55 PM CST

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1 problem is the lack of caring about anything. I passed a driver that had his phone on a holder above his steering wheel and he was watching a movie. Nobody has skin in the game anymore. Being an owner op you have everything pointed at you like RESPONSIBILITY for safety and financial. It all boils down to a lack of responsibility and it will only get worse with these stupid electronic devices like phones and elds.

Replied on Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:35 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. what is low? I'M SURE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CAN HAUL FREIGHT CHEAP AND STILL COME OUT BETTER THAN ALL ALL OF US ON THEIR BALANCE SHEETS IN THE END. SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST BETTER SAVERS AND KNOW HOW TO CONTROL THEIR COST BETTER. IT HAPPENS IN ALL FORMS OF BUSINESS. BIGGER COMPANIES CAN BUY OVERHEAD SUPPLIES IN BIGGER VOLUMES. ITS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE THE STONE AGES. jUST SAY NO! NOBODY CAN FORCE ANYBODY TO WORK.

Replied on Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 12:35 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

what is low? I'M SURE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CAN HAUL FREIGHT CHEAP AND STILL COME OUT BETTER THAN ALL ALL OF US ON THEIR BALANCE SHEETS IN THE END. SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST BETTER SAVERS AND KNOW HOW TO CONTROL THEIR COST BETTER. IT HAPPENS IN ALL FORMS OF BUSINESS. BIGGER COMPANIES CAN BUY OVERHEAD SUPPLIES IN BIGGER VOLUMES. ITS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE THE STONE AGES. jUST SAY NO! NOBODY CAN FORCE ANYBODY TO WORK.

Replied on Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 01:13 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Here is a question for you, if you tell your drivers to stay home because the rates are too low, how long will those drivers stay around? If you tell your banker you decided not to work until rates came up, how long would he wait to foreclose? If there is only one load of freight, but ten trucks bidding on it, you will only get it if you do it below cost, remember 2008? So I guess it comes down to your interpretation of force. Get a bunch of guys together with baseball bats when everyone is starving, and the answer may become more clear. We didn’t see it in the last collapse, but I bet we will in the next one, because Somehow I don’t think that China or the Arab’s are going to bail Wall Street out this time.

Replied on Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 01:13 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Here is a question for you, if you tell your drivers to stay home because the rates are too low, how long will those drivers stay around? If you tell your banker you decided not to work until rates came up, how long would he wait to foreclose? If there is only one load of freight, but ten trucks bidding on it, you will only get it if you do it below cost, remember 2008? So I guess it comes down to your interpretation of force. Get a bunch of guys together with baseball bats when everyone is starving, and the answer may become more clear. We didn’t see it in the last collapse, but I bet we will in the next one, because Somehow I don’t think that China or the Arab’s are going to bail Wall Street out this time.

Replied on Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 03:38 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Nine still move on empty. Hopefully they knew enough to get enough going in... to bounce.

Replied on Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 04:42 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. DAVE YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM NOT OUT TO START FIGHTS. WHEN MY DAD HAD HIS COMPANY YEARS AGO MOST OF OUR LOADS WERE CONTRACT LOADS THAT WERE CARVED IN STONE AHEAD OF TIME WITH THE TWO OR THREE MAIN CUSTOMERS WE HAD AND WE SELDOM DID BROKER OR SPOT LOADS FOR PEOPLE AND FUEL SURCHARGES WERE SET WITH CONTRACTS FOR PROTECTION. BUT NOTHING LAST FOREVER AND COMPANIES GET SOLD AND PEOPLE IN THE MANAGEMENT DIE THAT WERE VERY CLOSE FRIENDS OF OURS AND NEW OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT CAN SELL YOU OUT. THERE ARE NO FREE LUNCHES OUT THERE AND ANY JOB CAN BE HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW. DON'T EVER THINK YOUR JOB IS FOREVER AND PREPARE FOR DIFFICULT TIMES. BEST OF LUCK.

Replied on Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 04:42 PM CST

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DAVE YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM NOT OUT TO START FIGHTS. WHEN MY DAD HAD HIS COMPANY YEARS AGO MOST OF OUR LOADS WERE CONTRACT LOADS THAT WERE CARVED IN STONE AHEAD OF TIME WITH THE TWO OR THREE MAIN CUSTOMERS WE HAD AND WE SELDOM DID BROKER OR SPOT LOADS FOR PEOPLE AND FUEL SURCHARGES WERE SET WITH CONTRACTS FOR PROTECTION. BUT NOTHING LAST FOREVER AND COMPANIES GET SOLD AND PEOPLE IN THE MANAGEMENT DIE THAT WERE VERY CLOSE FRIENDS OF OURS AND NEW OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT CAN SELL YOU OUT. THERE ARE NO FREE LUNCHES OUT THERE AND ANY JOB CAN BE HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW. DON'T EVER THINK YOUR JOB IS FOREVER AND PREPARE FOR DIFFICULT TIMES. BEST OF LUCK.

Replied on Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 06:33 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Mr. stier, you speak words of wisdom, I couldn’t have said it better myself, the only thing constant is change. I have been blessed to have worked with some of the finest folks in the industry over the years, and have learned from watching them. I believe if any of us would of had a crystal ball back when we started, we would have chosen a different path in life, but then again you play the game with the hand your dealt, not the one wish you had.

Replied on Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 06:33 PM CST

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Mr. stier, you speak words of wisdom, I couldn’t have said it better myself, the only thing constant is change. I have been blessed to have worked with some of the finest folks in the industry over the years, and have learned from watching them. I believe if any of us would of had a crystal ball back when we started, we would have chosen a different path in life, but then again you play the game with the hand your dealt, not the one wish you had.

Replied on Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 06:34 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. DAVE I REREAD YOUR OTHER POST I CHANGED MY MIND. I WOULD RATHER NOT KNOW YOU. YOU CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN. NEWS FLASH ITS TOUGH IN ANY BUSINESS AND NO ONE OWES YOU, ME, OR ANYBODY ELSE A JOB, MEAL, SHELTER, OR CLOTHING. IF THIS DOES NOT WORK FOR YOU USE THE BRAIN GOD GAVE YOU AND GO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

Replied on Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 09:10 AM CST - 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "DAVE I REREAD YOUR OTHER POST I CHANGED MY MIND. I WOULD RATHER NOT KNOW YOU. YOU CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN. NEWS FLASH ITS TOUGH IN ANY BUSINESS AND NO ONE OWES YOU, ME, OR ANYBODY ELSE A JOB, MEAL, SHELTER, OR CLOTHING. IF THIS DOES NOT WORK FOR YOU USE THE BRAIN GOD GAVE YOU AND GO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT." Mr. stier, please consider the feeling mutual, I would prefer not to know you as well, now that you stated truckers aren’t owed a living, for the work they perform. My grandpa said there were guys like you at the Ludlow Coal mines, before the massacre, they would try to blend in with all the other workers, and then they would criticize anyone who complained about being exploited. I think he called them collaborators.

Replied on Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 09:10 AM CST

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Quote: "DAVE I REREAD YOUR OTHER POST I CHANGED MY MIND. I WOULD RATHER NOT KNOW YOU. YOU CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN. NEWS FLASH ITS TOUGH IN ANY BUSINESS AND NO ONE OWES YOU, ME, OR ANYBODY ELSE A JOB, MEAL, SHELTER, OR CLOTHING. IF THIS DOES NOT WORK FOR YOU USE THE BRAIN GOD GAVE YOU AND GO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT."

Mr. stier, please consider the feeling mutual, I would prefer not to know you as well, now that you stated truckers aren’t owed a living, for the work they perform. My grandpa said there were guys like you at the Ludlow Coal mines, before the massacre, they would try to blend in with all the other workers, and then they would criticize anyone who complained about being exploited. I think he called them collaborators.

Replied on Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 09:10 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Christopher, could you show us the numbers for how someone can haul cheap and come out better as you stated? The big companies get insurance cheap because they are self insured right? So there's 7 cents per mile less than me. They might get fuel a few cents cheaper, but if I'm smart with where I fuel up and how I pay, I'd bet I'm buying it close, but to play devil's advocate, let's give them a couple cents per mile advantage over me. Now they are at 9 cents per mile cheaper than me. Fleets get trucks cheap. But they have cheap trucks. Let's say they buy a new volvo for 130 to 150k. What's the volvo worth in 5 years? The depreciation is higher than what that big fleet is saving. Aerodynamic volvo is getting better fuel economy than my 379? Doubt it, but let's say it is. Selling that volvo for 30k after 5 years, the depreciation eats up the fuel savings and the fleet size advantage savings. They are buying new so they have a warranty as I do not, so there's some savings they have over me. Any shop in the country can do anything at any time to my 379. You're gunna need a significant tow to get the fleet truck to a warranty facility. So warranty is off set by convenience and lack of down time in my opinion. Am I wrong? If so , show me where, then I'd know how I can haul cheap too.

Replied on Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 09:10 AM CST

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Christopher, could you show us the numbers for how someone can haul cheap and come out better as you stated?

The big companies get insurance cheap because they are self insured right? So there's 7 cents per mile less than me. They might get fuel a few cents cheaper, but if I'm smart with where I fuel up and how I pay, I'd bet I'm buying it close, but to play devil's advocate, let's give them a couple cents per mile advantage over me. Now they are at 9 cents per mile cheaper than me. Fleets get trucks cheap. But they have cheap trucks. Let's say they buy a new volvo for 130 to 150k. What's the volvo worth in 5 years? The depreciation is higher than what that big fleet is saving. Aerodynamic volvo is getting better fuel economy than my 379? Doubt it, but let's say it is. Selling that volvo for 30k after 5 years, the depreciation eats up the fuel savings and the fleet size advantage savings. They are buying new so they have a warranty as I do not, so there's some savings they have over me. Any shop in the country can do anything at any time to my 379. You're gunna need a significant tow to get the fleet truck to a warranty facility. So warranty is off set by convenience and lack of down time in my opinion. Am I wrong? If so , show me where, then I'd know how I can haul cheap too.

Replied on Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 05:33 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "So we all see the problem,everybody comes on here and gripes about it,but nobody does a damn thing about it.Start boycotting these scum of the earth brokers.There is a solution to every problem,stop hauling cheap loads!!!!!!!!" Eric, you are correct. There is a big way to improve this industry, and the lives of the folks working in it; however, no one has the guts and/or the brains to do anything about it. Or, they need to develop a back bone. They'd rather use their energy to complain.

Replied on Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 05:33 PM CST

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Quote: "So we all see the problem,everybody comes on here and gripes about it,but nobody does a damn thing about it.Start boycotting these scum of the earth brokers.There is a solution to every problem,stop hauling cheap loads!!!!!!!!"

Eric, you are correct. There is a big way to improve this industry, and the lives of the folks working in it; however, no one has the guts and/or the brains to do anything about it. Or, they need to develop a back bone. They'd rather use their energy to complain.

Replied on Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 10:41 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Eric, you are correct. There is a big way to improve this industry, and the lives of the folks working in it; however, no one has the guts and/or the brains to do anything about it. Or, they need to develop a back bone. They'd rather use their energy to complain." Remember two years ago, when the ELD mandate hit in December? And all of these blowhards were going to make a stand, and supposedly shut the key off, until rates went up or the bullshit got repealled? Well unlike the rest of you, I actually did park my truck, and it stayed parked for 5 months until May, when I found local work, wich I have been doing ever since. Come talk to my neighbors if you have any doubts. Where were the rest of you? Bending over in the parking lot, and begging for more from the folks who screw you up the rear! Now all you guys who wouldn’t stand up for yourselves are going broke, and getting what you deserve in my opinion, and we are about to thin the heard again, incase any of you are to dumb to figure it out, the economy is about to crash, and all you idiots that have been bragging about how you can work cheaper, while you continue to play big shot and add trucks to your fleets, are going to disappear, as rates keep falling and your drivers run your insurance rates through the roof, trying to cram in those miles with a ELD.

Replied on Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 10:41 PM CST

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Quote: "Eric, you are correct. There is a big way to improve this industry, and the lives of the folks working in it; however, no one has the guts and/or the brains to do anything about it. Or, they need to develop a back bone. They'd rather use their energy to complain."

Remember two years ago, when the ELD mandate hit in December? And all of these blowhards were going to make a stand, and supposedly shut the key off, until rates went up or the bullshit got repealled? Well unlike the rest of you, I actually did park my truck, and it stayed parked for 5 months until May, when I found local work, wich I have been doing ever since. Come talk to my neighbors if you have any doubts. Where were the rest of you? Bending over in the parking lot, and begging for more from the folks who screw you up the rear! Now all you guys who wouldn’t stand up for yourselves are going broke, and getting what you deserve in my opinion, and we are about to thin the heard again, incase any of you are to dumb to figure it out, the economy is about to crash, and all you idiots that have been bragging about how you can work cheaper, while you continue to play big shot and add trucks to your fleets, are going to disappear, as rates keep falling and your drivers run your insurance rates through the roof, trying to cram in those miles with a ELD.

Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 06:52 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Dave, wonder how some of these modern day steering wheel holders would like to drive equipment like I cut my teeth on back in '63. A buble nose white 3000 that I found a similar photo of tonight. Pictured below.

Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 06:52 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Remember two years ago, when the ELD mandate hit in December? And all of these blowhards were going to make a stand, and supposedly shut the key off, until rates went up or the bullshit got repealled? Well unlike the rest of you, I actually did park my truck, and it stayed parked for 5 months until May, when I found local work, wich I have been doing ever since. Come talk to my neighbors if you have any doubts. Where were the rest of you? Bending over in the parking lot, and begging for more from the folks who screw you up the rear! Now all you guys who wouldn’t stand up for yourselves are going broke, and getting what you deserve in my opinion, and we are about to thin the heard again, incase any of you are to dumb to figure it out, the economy is about to crash, and all you idiots that have been bragging about how you can work cheaper, while you continue to play big shot and add trucks to your fleets, are going to disappear, as rates keep falling and your drivers run your insurance rates through the roof, trying to cram in those miles with a ELD. " You are so right. The ELD B.S. was one of the reasons I delayed coming out of retirement before starting to build our new company. I've been asked what will happen to it when I pass on. My nephew will inherit everything. Hope he's learning his lessons properly about the crap that goes along with trucking. Yup, very few people with a back bone these days.

Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 06:52 AM CST

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Quote: "Remember two years ago, when the ELD mandate hit in December? And all of these blowhards were going to make a stand, and supposedly shut the key off, until rates went up or the bullshit got repealled? Well unlike the rest of you, I actually did park my truck, and it stayed parked for 5 months until May, when I found local work, wich I have been doing ever since. Come talk to my neighbors if you have any doubts. Where were the rest of you? Bending over in the parking lot, and begging for more from the folks who screw you up the rear! Now all you guys who wouldn’t stand up for yourselves are going broke, and getting what you deserve in my opinion, and we are about to thin the heard again, incase any of you are to dumb to figure it out, the economy is about to crash, and all you idiots that have been bragging about how you can work cheaper, while you continue to play big shot and add trucks to your fleets, are going to disappear, as rates keep falling and your drivers run your insurance rates through the roof, trying to cram in those miles with a ELD. "

You are so right. The ELD B.S. was one of the reasons I delayed coming out of retirement before starting to build our new company. I've been asked what will happen to it when I pass on. My nephew will inherit everything. Hope he's learning his lessons properly about the crap that goes along with trucking.

Yup, very few people with a back bone these days.

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 07:20 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Jerry I am guessing that if they had to drive something like that, there would be less drivers out here, and that might go a long way in solving some of the problems, in and of itself. The first truck I drove, was a 1971 GMC Astro, with a 6-71 Detroit and a ten speed, but I thought it was something special at the time, because it had roof mounted air conditioning. In the winter time I had to wear insulated Carharts, and snowmobile boots while driving it to stay warm, and the windows would frost up frequently on the cab. I would imagine a truck from ‘63 was about the same?

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 07:20 AM CST

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Jerry I am guessing that if they had to drive something like that, there would be less drivers out here, and that might go a long way in solving some of the problems, in and of itself. The first truck I drove, was a 1971 GMC Astro, with a 6-71 Detroit and a ten speed, but I thought it was something special at the time, because it had roof mounted air conditioning. In the winter time I had to wear insulated Carharts, and snowmobile boots while driving it to stay warm, and the windows would frost up frequently on the cab. I would imagine a truck from ‘63 was about the same?

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:27 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Jerry I am guessing that if they had to drive something like that, there would be less drivers out here, and that might go a long way in solving some of the problems, in and of itself. The first truck I drove, was a 1971 GMC Astro, with a 6-71 Detroit and a ten speed, but I thought it was something special at the time, because it had roof mounted air conditioning. In the winter time I had to wear insulated Carharts, and snowmobile boots while driving it to stay warm, and the windows would frost up frequently on the cab. I would imagine a truck from ‘63 was about the same? " Air conditioning? hehehehe. Living high off the hog! Despite sitting over the engine, it was still very cold in the winter. And stinky from exhaust and engine smells. Boy, what memories!

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:27 PM CST

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Quote: "Jerry I am guessing that if they had to drive something like that, there would be less drivers out here, and that might go a long way in solving some of the problems, in and of itself. The first truck I drove, was a 1971 GMC Astro, with a 6-71 Detroit and a ten speed, but I thought it was something special at the time, because it had roof mounted air conditioning. In the winter time I had to wear insulated Carharts, and snowmobile boots while driving it to stay warm, and the windows would frost up frequently on the cab. I would imagine a truck from ‘63 was about the same? "

Air conditioning? hehehehe. Living high off the hog! Despite sitting over the engine, it was still very cold in the winter. And stinky from exhaust and engine smells. Boy, what memories!

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:27 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Mr. stier, please consider the feeling mutual, I would prefer not to know you as well, now that you stated truckers aren’t owed a living, for the work they perform. My grandpa said there were guys like you at the Ludlow Coal mines, before the massacre, they would try to blend in with all the other workers, and then they would criticize anyone who complained about being exploited. I think he called them collaborators." I SAID NOBODY OWES YOU A JOB BIG DIFFERENCE. PLUS YOU CONDONE BEING VIOLENT WHICH I DON'T. IF SOMETHING DOES NOT WORK OUT JUST SIMPLY MOVE ON. LET THE SHIPPER DEAL WITH THERE STUFF AND THEY WILL PROBABLY GET CHEAP CRAPPY SERVICE . YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I JUST DON' T GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE ABOUT IT ALL. I HAVE A BRAIN AND I CAN BE HIRED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND COME UP WITH MY OWN IDEAS AND PLANS. IF PEOPLE ARE JERKS TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR BUSINESS AND JUST SAY NO THANKYOU!

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:27 PM CST

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Quote: "Mr. stier, please consider the feeling mutual, I would prefer not to know you as well, now that you stated truckers aren’t owed a living, for the work they perform. My grandpa said there were guys like you at the Ludlow Coal mines, before the massacre, they would try to blend in with all the other workers, and then they would criticize anyone who complained about being exploited. I think he called them collaborators."

I SAID NOBODY OWES YOU A JOB BIG DIFFERENCE. PLUS YOU CONDONE BEING VIOLENT WHICH I DON'T. IF SOMETHING DOES NOT WORK OUT JUST SIMPLY MOVE ON. LET THE SHIPPER DEAL WITH THERE STUFF AND THEY WILL PROBABLY GET CHEAP CRAPPY SERVICE . YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I JUST DON' T GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE ABOUT IT ALL. I HAVE A BRAIN AND I CAN BE HIRED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND COME UP WITH MY OWN IDEAS AND PLANS. IF PEOPLE ARE JERKS TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR BUSINESS AND JUST SAY NO THANKYOU!

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:49 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Christopher, could you show us the numbers for how someone can haul cheap and come out better as you stated? The big companies get insurance cheap because they are self insured right? So there's 7 cents per mile less than me. They might get fuel a few cents cheaper, but if I'm smart with where I fuel up and how I pay, I'd bet I'm buying it close, but to play devil's advocate, let's give them a couple cents per mile advantage over me. Now they are at 9 cents per mile cheaper than me. Fleets get trucks cheap. But they have cheap trucks. Let's say they buy a new volvo for 130 to 150k. What's the volvo worth in 5 years? The depreciation is higher than what that big fleet is saving. Aerodynamic volvo is getting better fuel economy than my 379? Doubt it, but let's say it is. Selling that volvo for 30k after 5 years, the depreciation eats up the fuel savings and the fleet size advantage savings. They are buying new so they have a warranty as I do not, so there's some savings they have over me. Any shop in the country can do anything at any time to my 379. You're gunna need a significant tow to get the fleet truck to a warranty facility. So warranty is off set by convenience and lack of down time in my opinion. Am I wrong? If so , show me where, then I'd know how I can haul cheap too." DALE I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY A GOOD MANAGER. ITS HARD TO SAY IF THE FLEETS OVERHEAD MARGIN I BETTER THAN THE ON GUY ONE TRUCK BECAUSE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT CHEAP EITHER. WORK COMP. PAYROLL, MORE OFFICE PEOPLE, MORE MAINTENACE EMPLOYEES, REALESTATE SPACE. SO YES THE ONE TRUCK GUY MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME OUT BETTER. ALL I WAS GETTING AT WAS JUST EVERYBODIES AVERAGES ARE DIFFERENT AS FAR AS DEAD HEADS, WHERE THEY LIVE, VOLUME, AND FINDING THE BETTER CUSTOMERS. I NOT HERE TO START FIGHTS JUST HERE TO LEARN. I JUST DON'T CARE FOR MR. WINTER HE MAKES ALL LOOK BAD AND DUMB. GOOD LUCK.

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:49 PM CST

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Quote: "Christopher, could you show us the numbers for how someone can haul cheap and come out better as you stated? The big companies get insurance cheap because they are self insured right? So there's 7 cents per mile less than me. They might get fuel a few cents cheaper, but if I'm smart with where I fuel up and how I pay, I'd bet I'm buying it close, but to play devil's advocate, let's give them a couple cents per mile advantage over me. Now they are at 9 cents per mile cheaper than me. Fleets get trucks cheap. But they have cheap trucks. Let's say they buy a new volvo for 130 to 150k. What's the volvo worth in 5 years? The depreciation is higher than what that big fleet is saving. Aerodynamic volvo is getting better fuel economy than my 379? Doubt it, but let's say it is. Selling that volvo for 30k after 5 years, the depreciation eats up the fuel savings and the fleet size advantage savings. They are buying new so they have a warranty as I do not, so there's some savings they have over me. Any shop in the country can do anything at any time to my 379. You're gunna need a significant tow to get the fleet truck to a warranty facility. So warranty is off set by convenience and lack of down time in my opinion. Am I wrong? If so , show me where, then I'd know how I can haul cheap too."

DALE I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY A GOOD MANAGER. ITS HARD TO SAY IF THE FLEETS OVERHEAD MARGIN I BETTER THAN THE ON GUY ONE TRUCK BECAUSE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT CHEAP EITHER. WORK COMP. PAYROLL, MORE OFFICE PEOPLE, MORE MAINTENACE EMPLOYEES, REALESTATE SPACE. SO YES THE ONE TRUCK GUY MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME OUT BETTER. ALL I WAS GETTING AT WAS JUST EVERYBODIES AVERAGES ARE DIFFERENT AS FAR AS DEAD HEADS, WHERE THEY LIVE, VOLUME, AND FINDING THE BETTER CUSTOMERS. I NOT HERE TO START FIGHTS JUST HERE TO LEARN. I JUST DON'T CARE FOR MR. WINTER HE MAKES ALL LOOK BAD AND DUMB. GOOD LUCK.

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 03:07 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Called on some loads today. Rates are diving lower and lower! When I said that the rate was not good enough I was told "We will find a truck that the rate is good enough for". Needless to say, my truck is still sitting." I like your style of thinking

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 03:07 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "DALE I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY A GOOD MANAGER. ITS HARD TO SAY IF THE FLEETS OVERHEAD MARGIN I BETTER THAN THE ON GUY ONE TRUCK BECAUSE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT CHEAP EITHER. WORK COMP. PAYROLL, MORE OFFICE PEOPLE, MORE MAINTENACE EMPLOYEES, REALESTATE SPACE. SO YES THE ONE TRUCK GUY MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME OUT BETTER. ALL I WAS GETTING AT WAS JUST EVERYBODIES AVERAGES ARE DIFFERENT AS FAR AS DEAD HEADS, WHERE THEY LIVE, VOLUME, AND FINDING THE BETTER CUSTOMERS. I NOT HERE TO START FIGHTS JUST HERE TO LEARN. I JUST DON'T CARE FOR MR. WINTER HE MAKES ALL LOOK BAD AND DUMB. GOOD LUCK." Says the guy that can't spell and types in ALL CAPS. Those in glass houses...

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 03:07 PM CST

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Quote: "DALE I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY A GOOD MANAGER. ITS HARD TO SAY IF THE FLEETS OVERHEAD MARGIN I BETTER THAN THE ON GUY ONE TRUCK BECAUSE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT CHEAP EITHER. WORK COMP. PAYROLL, MORE OFFICE PEOPLE, MORE MAINTENACE EMPLOYEES, REALESTATE SPACE. SO YES THE ONE TRUCK GUY MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME OUT BETTER. ALL I WAS GETTING AT WAS JUST EVERYBODIES AVERAGES ARE DIFFERENT AS FAR AS DEAD HEADS, WHERE THEY LIVE, VOLUME, AND FINDING THE BETTER CUSTOMERS. I NOT HERE TO START FIGHTS JUST HERE TO LEARN. I JUST DON'T CARE FOR MR. WINTER HE MAKES ALL LOOK BAD AND DUMB. GOOD LUCK."

Says the guy that can't spell and types in ALL CAPS. Those in glass houses...

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 05:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. No I'm not a good manager. I just have a smart wife who's patient enough to tolerate me being a total moron

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 05:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Christopher, the owner operators are still not cheaper. As you said, the fleets aren't as cheap because their employees are expensive....shouldn't the owner operator be paid just as much or more per mile? All I'm getting at is, please don't forget all expenses. I've heard a hundred times that people can run cheap because the truck is payed for. The drivetrain and truck still depreciates. Overhaul with a warranty. 25 to30kor more. Trans and clutch, 5k ish? Power divider 3 to 5k. Drive tires 3500, steers 1500, regular maintenance ect ect. I'm just saying for the full time truck going down the road, the spread from cheap operator to spendy operator is much closer than most think. Nothing personal against you, if someone says I can haul cheap because .....its cutting their throat because they are obviously forgetting some expense that's coming down the pipe but not visible yet. It reinforces this narrative that 2 bucks per loaded mile for a rig is acceptable

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 05:30 PM CST

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Christopher, the owner operators are still not cheaper. As you said, the fleets aren't as cheap because their employees are expensive....shouldn't the owner operator be paid just as much or more per mile? All I'm getting at is, please don't forget all expenses. I've heard a hundred times that people can run cheap because the truck is payed for. The drivetrain and truck still depreciates. Overhaul with a warranty. 25 to30kor more. Trans and clutch, 5k ish? Power divider 3 to 5k. Drive tires 3500, steers 1500, regular maintenance ect ect. I'm just saying for the full time truck going down the road, the spread from cheap operator to spendy operator is much closer than most think. Nothing personal against you, if someone says I can haul cheap because .....its cutting their throat because they are obviously forgetting some expense that's coming down the pipe but not visible yet. It reinforces this narrative that 2 bucks per loaded mile for a rig is acceptable

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 08:43 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Christopher, the owner operators are still not cheaper. As you said, the fleets aren't as cheap because their employees are expensive....shouldn't the owner operator be paid just as much or more per mile? All I'm getting at is, please don't forget all expenses. I've heard a hundred times that people can run cheap because the truck is payed for. The drivetrain and truck still depreciates. Overhaul with a warranty. 25 to30kor more. Trans and clutch, 5k ish? Power divider 3 to 5k. Drive tires 3500, steers 1500, regular maintenance ect ect. I'm just saying for the full time truck going down the road, the spread from cheap operator to spendy operator is much closer than most think. Nothing personal against you, if someone says I can haul cheap because .....its cutting their throat because they are obviously forgetting some expense that's coming down the pipe but not visible yet. It reinforces this narrative that 2 bucks per loaded mile for a rig is acceptable " REALLY RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE PEOPLE LEASED TO A COMPANY ARE DOING BETTER THAN THE ONES TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING ON THERE OWN AUTHORITY WITH INSURANCE BEING AS HIGH AS IT IS. A LITTLE BETTER DISCOUNTS ON FUEL AND TIRES. AS FOR THE MAINTENACE ITEMS YOU LISTED YOU ARE CORRECT. BEEN THERE AND PAID FOR IT. SOMETIMES IT WAS JUST CHEAPER BETTER TO SCAP SOME OF THE TRUCKS AND START WITH A DIFFERENT ONE. DAVE STARTED PREACHING VIOLENT STUFF ABOUT BASEBALL BATS AND STUFF. THAT IS WHY HE IS ANGRY WITH ME BECAUSE I CALLED HIM OUT ON IT. WE HAVE TO BE SMART ENOUGH OURSELVES NOT TO LET OURSELVES BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. SURE THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SHARKS OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING TO TRY. TODAY IF EMPLOYERS TREAT THEIR WORKERS LIKE CRAP THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG. DAVE SEEMS TO THINK THIS IS STILL THE 1930 OR 1800 ERA. LET ME KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET THE $3,500.00 SET OF DRIVES SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. I RUN MICHELIN SO THEY DO COST A LITTLE MORE, BUT HAVE HAD REAL GOOD LUCK WITH THEM.

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 08:43 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Christopher, the owner operators are still not cheaper. As you said, the fleets aren't as cheap because their employees are expensive....shouldn't the owner operator be paid just as much or more per mile? All I'm getting at is, please don't forget all expenses. I've heard a hundred times that people can run cheap because the truck is payed for. The drivetrain and truck still depreciates. Overhaul with a warranty. 25 to30kor more. Trans and clutch, 5k ish? Power divider 3 to 5k. Drive tires 3500, steers 1500, regular maintenance ect ect. I'm just saying for the full time truck going down the road, the spread from cheap operator to spendy operator is much closer than most think. Nothing personal against you, if someone says I can haul cheap because .....its cutting their throat because they are obviously forgetting some expense that's coming down the pipe but not visible yet. It reinforces this narrative that 2 bucks per loaded mile for a rig is acceptable "

REALLY RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE PEOPLE LEASED TO A COMPANY ARE DOING BETTER THAN THE ONES TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING ON THERE OWN AUTHORITY WITH INSURANCE BEING AS HIGH AS IT IS. A LITTLE BETTER DISCOUNTS ON FUEL AND TIRES. AS FOR THE MAINTENACE ITEMS YOU LISTED YOU ARE CORRECT. BEEN THERE AND PAID FOR IT. SOMETIMES IT WAS JUST CHEAPER BETTER TO SCAP SOME OF THE TRUCKS AND START WITH A DIFFERENT ONE. DAVE STARTED PREACHING VIOLENT STUFF ABOUT BASEBALL BATS AND STUFF. THAT IS WHY HE IS ANGRY WITH ME BECAUSE I CALLED HIM OUT ON IT. WE HAVE TO BE SMART ENOUGH OURSELVES NOT TO LET OURSELVES BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. SURE THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SHARKS OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING TO TRY. TODAY IF EMPLOYERS TREAT THEIR WORKERS LIKE CRAP THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG. DAVE SEEMS TO THINK THIS IS STILL THE 1930 OR 1800 ERA. LET ME KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET THE $3,500.00 SET OF DRIVES SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. I RUN MICHELIN SO THEY DO COST A LITTLE MORE, BUT HAVE HAD REAL GOOD LUCK WITH THEM.

Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 05:55 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I SAID NOBODY OWES YOU A JOB BIG DIFFERENCE. PLUS YOU CONDONE BEING VIOLENT WHICH I DON'T. IF SOMETHING DOES NOT WORK OUT JUST SIMPLY MOVE ON. LET THE SHIPPER DEAL WITH THERE STUFF AND THEY WILL PROBABLY GET CHEAP CRAPPY SERVICE . YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I JUST DON' T GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE ABOUT IT ALL. I HAVE A BRAIN AND I CAN BE HIRED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND COME UP WITH MY OWN IDEAS AND PLANS. IF PEOPLE ARE JERKS TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR BUSINESS AND JUST SAY NO THANKYOU!" Condone violence you say? All I have done is point out what’s in history books, and newspapers. You asked the question how do you know when rates are too low, and I pointed out that the history books indicate that when starving men start showing up with baseball bats, the answer becomes clear, nothing more nothing less. If you have some misguided interpretation about that, that’s on you. (Physiatrists call that delusional). Now, you sit here lecturing us, how we should just roll over, and not defend what is rightfully ours? We should just move on, and not raise a stink? It makes me wonder if your drivers should see your books.

Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 05:55 AM CST

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Quote: "I SAID NOBODY OWES YOU A JOB BIG DIFFERENCE. PLUS YOU CONDONE BEING VIOLENT WHICH I DON'T. IF SOMETHING DOES NOT WORK OUT JUST SIMPLY MOVE ON. LET THE SHIPPER DEAL WITH THERE STUFF AND THEY WILL PROBABLY GET CHEAP CRAPPY SERVICE . YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. I JUST DON' T GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE ABOUT IT ALL. I HAVE A BRAIN AND I CAN BE HIRED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND COME UP WITH MY OWN IDEAS AND PLANS. IF PEOPLE ARE JERKS TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR BUSINESS AND JUST SAY NO THANKYOU!"

Condone violence you say? All I have done is point out what’s in history books, and newspapers. You asked the question how do you know when rates are too low, and I pointed out that the history books indicate that when starving men start showing up with baseball bats, the answer becomes clear, nothing more nothing less. If you have some misguided interpretation about that, that’s on you. (Physiatrists call that delusional). Now, you sit here lecturing us, how we should just roll over, and not defend what is rightfully ours? We should just move on, and not raise a stink? It makes me wonder if your drivers should see your books.

Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 05:55 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I use michelin steers, Yokohama drives. They've been great for me. Twin valley tire in Milbank. It was just under 3500 for all 8 ty517.

Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 07:14 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "REALLY RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE PEOPLE LEASED TO A COMPANY ARE DOING BETTER THAN THE ONES TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING ON THERE OWN AUTHORITY WITH INSURANCE BEING AS HIGH AS IT IS. A LITTLE BETTER DISCOUNTS ON FUEL AND TIRES. AS FOR THE MAINTENACE ITEMS YOU LISTED YOU ARE CORRECT. BEEN THERE AND PAID FOR IT. SOMETIMES IT WAS JUST CHEAPER BETTER TO SCAP SOME OF THE TRUCKS AND START WITH A DIFFERENT ONE. DAVE STARTED PREACHING VIOLENT STUFF ABOUT BASEBALL BATS AND STUFF. THAT IS WHY HE IS ANGRY WITH ME BECAUSE I CALLED HIM OUT ON IT. WE HAVE TO BE SMART ENOUGH OURSELVES NOT TO LET OURSELVES BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. SURE THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SHARKS OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING TO TRY. TODAY IF EMPLOYERS TREAT THEIR WORKERS LIKE CRAP THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG. DAVE SEEMS TO THINK THIS IS STILL THE 1930 OR 1800 ERA. LET ME KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET THE $3,500.00 SET OF DRIVES SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. I RUN MICHELIN SO THEY DO COST A LITTLE MORE, BUT HAVE HAD REAL GOOD LUCK WITH THEM." $3500 is about right for ten virgin drives. You're only paying for the name these days. https://simpletire.com/catalog?select=1&brand=81&subtype=5&content=1065&meta=31&position=8&query=catalog&sort=price&order=asc

Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 07:14 AM CST

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Quote: "REALLY RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE PEOPLE LEASED TO A COMPANY ARE DOING BETTER THAN THE ONES TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING ON THERE OWN AUTHORITY WITH INSURANCE BEING AS HIGH AS IT IS. A LITTLE BETTER DISCOUNTS ON FUEL AND TIRES. AS FOR THE MAINTENACE ITEMS YOU LISTED YOU ARE CORRECT. BEEN THERE AND PAID FOR IT. SOMETIMES IT WAS JUST CHEAPER BETTER TO SCAP SOME OF THE TRUCKS AND START WITH A DIFFERENT ONE. DAVE STARTED PREACHING VIOLENT STUFF ABOUT BASEBALL BATS AND STUFF. THAT IS WHY HE IS ANGRY WITH ME BECAUSE I CALLED HIM OUT ON IT. WE HAVE TO BE SMART ENOUGH OURSELVES NOT TO LET OURSELVES BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. SURE THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SHARKS OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING TO TRY. TODAY IF EMPLOYERS TREAT THEIR WORKERS LIKE CRAP THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG. DAVE SEEMS TO THINK THIS IS STILL THE 1930 OR 1800 ERA. LET ME KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET THE $3,500.00 SET OF DRIVES SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. I RUN MICHELIN SO THEY DO COST A LITTLE MORE, BUT HAVE HAD REAL GOOD LUCK WITH THEM."

$3500 is about right for ten virgin drives. You're only paying for the name these days.

https://simpletire.com/catalog?select=1&brand=81&subtype=5&content=1065&meta=31&position=8&query=catalog&sort=price&order=asc

Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 07:14 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Condone violence you say? All I have done is point out what’s in history books, and newspapers. You asked the question how do you know when rates are too low, and I pointed out that the history books indicate that when starving men start showing up with baseball bats, the answer becomes clear, nothing more nothing less. If you have some misguided interpretation about that, that’s on you. (Physiatrists call that delusional). Now, you sit here lecturing us, how we should just roll over, and not defend what is rightfully ours? We should just move on, and not raise a stink? It makes me wonder if your drivers should see your books. " For what it's worth, Dave. I agree with you. I grew in Baltimore City and that's exactly how I was raised to handle things when there's nowhere else to go. It's the only way people listen. The "justice" system is a joke IF you can even get them served to show up for a hearing. Relying on the government to handle our issues is NOT how this country was built to be and it's proven without a shadow of a doubt to be an utterly worthless mistake. What's the old saying, "you want something done right? Then do it yourself!"

Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 07:14 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Condone violence you say? All I have done is point out what’s in history books, and newspapers. You asked the question how do you know when rates are too low, and I pointed out that the history books indicate that when starving men start showing up with baseball bats, the answer becomes clear, nothing more nothing less. If you have some misguided interpretation about that, that’s on you. (Physiatrists call that delusional). Now, you sit here lecturing us, how we should just roll over, and not defend what is rightfully ours? We should just move on, and not raise a stink? It makes me wonder if your drivers should see your books. "

For what it's worth, Dave. I agree with you. I grew in Baltimore City and that's exactly how I was raised to handle things when there's nowhere else to go. It's the only way people listen. The "justice" system is a joke IF you can even get them served to show up for a hearing. Relying on the government to handle our issues is NOT how this country was built to be and it's proven without a shadow of a doubt to be an utterly worthless mistake. What's the old saying, "you want something done right? Then do it yourself!"