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Oct 17, 2018 at 08:44 AM CST
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Wacky weed became legal in Canada today. So if we get to the point where nobody can pass a drug test, will the DOT have to start looking the other way? Or will they just Watch the supply chain shut down? How long will it be before it's sold at truck stops, right next to the beer? Notice how silent the ATA has been over the subject? Are the tyrants loosing control?
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:13 AM CST
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it's wednesday ya stoner..... :)
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:20 AM CST
you are still randomly drug tested for driving internationally as it always has been. no one is "going to look the other way" and no one should be stupid enough to assume they will. If anything they will be more prone to action as now it is legal here. If you are caught/convicted down there you would face no chance of driving professionally across the border again. Within Canada the same rules apply, random testing, if positive, you sit for 30 days or you could be fired. The rules for training up here are going to change drastically due to some major fatalities involving trucks so i would imagine this part will be addressed as well.
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:21 AM CST
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You mean autocorrect malfunctioned? Technology failed, it's not foolproof? Oh well, there go your hopes for robotic trucks. I wonder if it was developed by Elon Musk? Bahhahaha
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM CST
where is this old world headed? Just on Fri Oct 12 there was a terrible accident in Harrisburg pa where a [stoned] may I repeat stoned truck driver rear ended 12 vehicles and killed 3 people. the driver got jail and is denied bail. the DOT and lawyers will be crawling over that case for a long time. Here in pa they didn't sell beer at gas stations now thanks to mega gas stations they are. It just seems so wrong to go buy fuel at a mini truck stop and have to get my cold soda beside beer . there is no one really watching this and I probaly could get a six pack and keep it in the truck. All I can say is buckle up and drive safe because it's not just drunks on the road at 2 am last call anymore those constant drunks are out at any hour.
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM CST
and it could be the next truck you meet that just made a beer run
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:07 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: ANDREW WENGER
Quote: "where is this old world headed? Just on Fri Oct 12 there was a terrible accident in Harrisburg pa where a [stoned] may I repeat stoned truck driver rear ended 12 vehicles and killed 3 people. the driver got jail and is denied bail. the DOT and lawyers will be crawling over that case for a long time. Here in pa they didn't sell beer at gas stations now thanks to mega gas stations they are. It just seems so wrong to go buy fuel at a mini truck stop and have to get my cold soda beside beer . there is no one really watching this and I probaly could get a six pack and keep it in the truck. All I can say is buckle up and drive safe because it's not just drunks on the road at 2 am last call anymore those constant drunks are out at any hour."

Look at the number of truck stops that have put in a bar recently, for instance here in Minnesota the Clearwater travel plaza has one, as well as the TA in Albert lea. And in states like Iowa and Nebraska, it's not hard to find a place that sells diesel along with beer and liquor. So it's hard not to see the writing on the wall, of how the legalization process will play out. However the main reason I chose to talk about this topic, is to illustrate how the ATA and their associates are reacting. They don't seem to want to give much press time to this subject, why is that? Could it be becuase they are powerless to stop it? If they start talking about this, it will become clear that drug users have more clout with Washington than they do. And folks may realize that the trucking lobby is not really that powerful after all? Could it result in them loosing influence with law makers, especially in light of the recent dubockl of the ELD, and its disastrous effects on the economy? The largest demographic of marijuana users are between 18-25, the age group that the ATA hopes to recruit into trucking, and the ATA isn't jumping up and down making noise over this, and trying to stop it?
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:29 PM CST
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15 dead up here from a collision of a team bus with a super b. Humboldt Broncos hockey team. no drugs. no booze. just a driver on a cell phone blowing through a stop sign. its a mentality, not a substance abuse problem.
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:14 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: NANCY HARDER
Quote: "15 dead up here from a collision of a team bus with a super b. Humboldt Broncos hockey team. no drugs. no booze. just a driver on a cell phone blowing through a stop sign. its a mentality, not a substance abuse problem."

Nancy I get it, you like smoking weed. I am not here to say we should take your bong away from you, I am just having fun pointing out how the powers that be are loosing control over the masses. A bunch of old men with cigars sitting around a smoke filled board room are no longer running the show.
Replied on Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:27 PM CST
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Tell me Dave.....exactly how does pot becoming legal in canada affect drivers in the usa.....I guess maybe the newsfeed from colorado , washington or california could not penetrate your tin foil hat so that you knew pot has been legal for a while in those states. Has the Legalization of it there had an impact on anything....have they changed laws regarding the use while driving. everytime i see you post i get a vision of that guy in the dukes of hazard movie running around in his underwear a plaid shirt black horned rimmed glasses and his tin foil hat....lmao
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 06:09 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: KEVIN SINGLETARY
Quote: "Tell me Dave.....exactly how does pot becoming legal in canada affect drivers in the usa.....I guess maybe the newsfeed from colorado , washington or california could not penetrate your tin foil hat so that you knew pot has been legal for a while in those states. Has the Legalization of it there had an impact on anything....have they changed laws regarding the use while driving. everytime i see you post i get a vision of that guy in the dukes of hazard movie running around in his underwear a plaid shirt black horned rimmed glasses and his tin foil hat....lmao"

Well Kevin, I see this subject has ruffled your feathers. Are you coming out of the closet now, and exposing your self as a promoter of pot use in the trucking community like your friend Mr. Rutherford? You should tell him not to confess to carrying a gun on the radio, when he has admitted to being a user, the ATF May have to come get him violating federal law. I do find it funny, that the all powerful trucking lobby, who has pushed continuously for tighter drug testing requirements, like hair testing, was unable to stop legalization in Canada and parts of the US. Drug users have more influence with elected officials than the trucking lobby does, now that's funny. Kevin you should go get authorities and run with the big boys, maybe run a load of taco shells up to Canada, and then come back across the border into the USA, and talk that same way to customs officials, and then you will see how Pot being legal in Canada affects you as a driver.
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:22 AM CST
Factually drug use does affect trucking because certain people are exempt from drug testing due to religious beliefs.
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:24 AM CST
Since I used the term factually I should clarify and cite my source. The gentleman who gave me my CDL test
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 08:05 AM CST
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I guess I'm going to contradict myself by saying I think drug use should be legal. If cocaine was legal, walmart would have every drug cartel flat #@$ broke in a year. D-bag criminals wouldn't be able to compete with Walmart because the criminals lace pot and cocaine with crap that kills their customers. The biggest problem in my opinion is a lack of accountability or responsibility in drug users or jack Daniels drinkers. And we live in a time where a couple will wake up to some stress inducing kids, smoke a clip to chill out and win the Nobel prize. Wake up and have a drink of Jack to relax the nerves, and CPS takes your kids. I'm not saying alcohol abuse is ok. It's equally as bad as drug abuse. I don't care if dot drug tests me once a week, but a human is responsible for their body, and the lives around them, not the government. In my opinion
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:21 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "Nancy I get it, you like smoking weed. I am not here to say we should take your bong away from you, I am just having fun pointing out how the powers that be are loosing control over the masses. A bunch of old men with cigars sitting around a smoke filled board room are no longer running the show. "

ok i dont get where you got that from my post but thanks for the ad homen comment, i am speaking of trucking and driving professionally. texting, being tired, severe lack of any meaningful training for new drivers, safety saves a huge amount of money for everyone. i believe through training and education a professional attitude is created. that stems from the trucker or the owner of the trucking company. so maybe just maybe people will start taking the saving of lives into their own hands. instead of pointing the finger.....
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:03 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: NANCY HARDER
Quote: "15 dead up here from a collision of a team bus with a super b. Humboldt Broncos hockey team. no drugs. no booze. just a driver on a cell phone blowing through a stop sign. its a mentality, not a substance abuse problem."

Did you not just imply in this statement, substance abuse is not a safety concern? Let's cut to the chase Nancy, do you support legalization or not? And do you think it's a safety concern? A simple yes or no answer is what I need.
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:17 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "Did you not just imply in this statement, substance abuse is not a safety concern? Let's cut to the chase Nancy, do you support legalization or not? And do you think it's a safety concern? A simple yes or no answer is what I need."

And what was the purpose of mentioning substance abuse in this statement, if not to provide cover. We all know that substance abuse played no role in that particular accident, so why mention it?
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 03:27 PM CST
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because bad drivers come in all shapes and sizes and dont need to be stoned or drunk to kill people. maybe a little less trolling and a little more working.....
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 06:39 PM CST
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Nancy I did not come here to pick a fight with you,or troll you. However in your opening reply to my post, you chose to call me a stoner and do a personal attack over a spelling error, so where is that hostility coming from? I asked the basic question what will the government do if gets to the point where nobody can pass a drug test, and instead providing a answer, you went off on a rant about safety. You seem to talk in riddles, so I asked you to clarify your position by asking if you support legalization, and if you think it's a safety hazard, and you have chosen not to provide a direct answer, why is that? Are you ashamed to have a opinion on the matter? Dale had no problem stating what thought, he came right out and said it, and I respect him for it. I would have more respect for you Nancy if you did the same. Normally I find you to be a very intelligent person Nancy, but I am disappointed in the way you are dodging the issue. If someone is ashamed to have a opinion, maybe they should change their opinion. If you have been following the news on the internet over the past few years, then you would know that in places where it's been legalized many employers have actually dropped drug testing as a condition of employment. I believe back in June the FDA rescheduled marijuana having recognized its medical benefits, so it's no longer a schedule one drug. A few years back when legalization was starting to take place the DOT decided to make a regulation that no commercial driver could have a schedule one substance in his system in order to prevent doctors from handing prescriptions for pot out to drivers.............. Well now that the FDA has rescheduled marijuana, guess what? This is going to affect people more than they think, and it's just a matter of time until the marijuana industry starts using some of its profits to tear down any roadblocks that interfere with its profits. Get ready for the lawsuits.
Replied on Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:45 PM CST
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dave dave dave...oh what an honor and privelage it must be to be the self proclaimed bulk loads forum king. I was wondering , is you tin foil hat the standard aluminum shiny silever type or do you use the festive red grees and other colored foils to...jazz it up a bit ?..lol. so anyway lets recap...according to you the elogs ere going to completely wreck destroy dismantle and implode the trucking industry , yet 1 year in a see much more fan fair about increased rates and profits than i do bankruptcy filings.......and then lets see what else...yada yada gonna thrust the megas into the forefront of every sector....cause more lives lost on highways...blah blah blah....yeah so anyways....and no before you get a chubby , i do not have to ...do not need to and ultimately do not have own lease rent or anything a eld device. i did however just order another 1000 mongramed loose leaf logs from jj keller.... so now after an absence i see you are proclaiming that marijuana.... which nope once again sorry i do not use and will submit to any type drug test to prove that you would like to pay for.... is going to wreck , destroy , manipulate , implode and whatever else the trucking industry....but frankly dave thats in canada not in the usa...so i'm not seeing a valid argument anywhere concerning it as i'm here they are there...now dave..i know this is going to cause you to go into a convulsive rant that i'm in with big brother...i support big brother....i this and i that....but in reality dave , no, i am an independent owner operator , playing by thier rules and raking in a good enough liveing to not only maintain my lifestyle but to also take 3 to 4 7 day carribean cruises per year.....so in closing ..king tinfoil hat forum king...if you would get out of your mark levin blanket fort bunker in your moms basement and get in the game amd off the hallucingenics the doctor gave you to stave off the dot demons , you might find that its poretty easy to play the game and roll some cash.....ok...now its your turn to lash back , and attempt to somehow insult me....give it your best shot..thanks be sweet big fella
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 07:52 AM CST
According to the highway loss data institute, auto insurance claims in Colorado increased by 3 percent after legalization in 2012. That's not trucking, that's cars, but we share the same road.

Also Kevin, according to a study done by ooida in 2016, using public fmcsa data, prior to the mandate, comparing fleets using elds to fleets that were not, there were 2 more crashes per 100 trucks on the road per year with eld equiped trucks
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:55 AM CST
ok so people driving cars in colorado in 2012 have whar effect on the nation as a whole in 2018 as well as the results from a study that after reading many articles the ooida chose to use that best backed thier narrative ? you see dale , there are tons of studies out there ...and each is different , you just go find the one that best backs your narrative and feed that one to your followers and bam there you go. i'm more of a reality guy myself , the ooida in the last few years has proven itself very similar and not much different from the ata....kind of like republicans and democrats..... liberals and left wingers..... they want to feed you thier swill , get you to believe it , send them money and tell you how great they are and how much they do for you......as long as thier hands are in your pockets.
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:15 AM CST
kevin ah yes Colorado now has a way to test for smoking and driving.. many a company driver has been spoted at log lane distribution center and the driver pulled over a mile down the road, truck searched, impounded and driver off to jail... guess what just because it is legal in Colorado does not make it legal on a commercial vehicle... you still abide by federal law when behind the wheel... oh but i guess that law doesn't apply to stoners...
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:21 AM CST
yup thats right , the laws for dui and federal law is unchanged no matter where you are or live. as well as transportation across state lines is trafficking even if for personal use. its no different than the laws and statutes concerning acohol and cmv's ........
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:29 PM CST
Kevin I believe you disagree with every narrative. I think you disagree with anything that hasn't been stated by you. I think the sky is blue...
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:40 PM CST
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Nancy, I agree with your point that there are plenty of other causes of accidents that need to be addressed, that we can't blame it on pot. I enjoy reading your posts, you always seem courteous.

I also follow Dave's posts. I may not always agree but I don't think he meant any ill will toward you. And I don't think Nancy meant anything personal with saying stoner, I think it was meant more as a joke.

Anyway, I enjoy discussions and debates. I think we are all on the same team.
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:43 PM CST
Except for people who don't want to be on anybody's team. Have a good weekend
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 01:11 PM CST
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ohhh great stab dale and yes i certainly agree that the sky is definitely blue....what color blue though , baby blue , sky blue , light blue......etc...you see its like the opinion thing everyone has thier own variation of interpretation. theres lots of rights and lots of wrongs , theres also lots of people out there with that...big brother is out to get me mentality......
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 07:33 PM CST
Originally Posted by: RANDY SWOPES
Quote: "kevin ah yes Colorado now has a way to test for smoking and driving.. many a company driver has been spoted at log lane distribution center and the driver pulled over a mile down the road, truck searched, impounded and driver off to jail... guess what just because it is legal in Colorado does not make it legal on a commercial vehicle... you still abide by federal law when behind the wheel... oh but i guess that law doesn't apply to stoners..."

Randy as I was reading your post you mentioned drivers at a distribution center smoking pot, and then getting busted a mile down the road, and that got me thinking about something that I think is worth mentioning. The employees themselves that work at the distribution center, perhaps getting high in the trailer when they are loading it, and leaving a scent on the trailer, that would later be detected by search dogs at the border? Who knows perhaps they even stepped a roach out in the trailer, towards the back end. Now when going through customs, K-9 officer Fido detects a hit? So customs officials at the US border decide to unload the cargo, and damage or destroy it in their search? Who is liable for the cargo? The carrier that's who. We know customs officials and the DEA have been ordered by Jeff sessions to really crack down at the Canadian border, and show no mercy, so some of you may want to think about that. Another way that people will be affected by this.
Replied on Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:26 PM CST
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how many hours per day do you dedicate to Dreaming this stuff up Davey ?