Why folks think truckers are stupid and idiotic

Mar 13, 2023 at 11:50 AM CST + 19 - 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. After reading this article https://www.freightwaves.com/news/transportation-prices-set-record-for-rate-of-decline-in-february And while I'm looking at the current market for parts, equipment, and fuel. I no longer wonder why people look down upon us all the time. We have record increases in running cost, and then record decreases in rates. And drivers are still running freight at rock bottom dollars. This is on the Amazon, DAT, TQL, C.H. Robinson, this load board as well. Definition of stupidity: behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment. "I can't believe my own stupidity". Definition of Idiocy: extremely stupid behavior. I've heard all the same lines before "Oh we just have to weather the storm". When are we going to become the storm.

Replied on Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 02:32 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I agree! The problem we have at the moment is fools (carriers & brokers) that saw dollar signs during the pandemic flooded the trucking market. These people had no business getting involved, and now we are all paying the price. Some of this problem is lack of education & experience in commodity density, location wait times, and the general ebb & flow of commodities by region and season compared to van freight. For example, I got an email from a broker this morning about a load of beet shreds going from the thumb of Michigan to North Carolina. The southeast is a bit of a dead zone for commodities coming back to the Midwest... I emailed him back that I may be interested in the load.... He quickly responded by saying he had the load covered for $76 a ton..... Since most guys would be lucky to get 20 tons of shreds (heaped) on a load, that makes that load $2.24 a loaded mile.... I emailed him back saying I would need $150 a ton (almost double) on my belt trailer.... Just say no to cheap freight.

Replied on Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 02:32 PM CST

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I agree! The problem we have at the moment is fools (carriers & brokers) that saw dollar signs during the pandemic flooded the trucking market. These people had no business getting involved, and now we are all paying the price.

Some of this problem is lack of education & experience in commodity density, location wait times, and the general ebb & flow of commodities by region and season compared to van freight. For example, I got an email from a broker this morning about a load of beet shreds going from the thumb of Michigan to North Carolina. The southeast is a bit of a dead zone for commodities coming back to the Midwest... I emailed him back that I may be interested in the load.... He quickly responded by saying he had the load covered for $76 a ton..... Since most guys would be lucky to get 20 tons of shreds (heaped) on a load, that makes that load $2.24 a loaded mile.... I emailed him back saying I would need $150 a ton (almost double) on my belt trailer.... Just say no to cheap freight.

Replied on Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 09:04 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Well at least you're one of the very few the smartest to say no to keep freight and refuse to move your truck all next to nothing pay I just wish this whole goddamn country would shut the f*** down for maybe about a good month and show how worthless the Democratic leadership is and maybe get the race to increase because nobody's working I mean we should act like these damn children are under 30 years old these days nobody wants to work they're $15 an hour their signs out there in Seattle $19 an hour to work at McDonald's in Montana $17 an hour to work at McDonald's and here we we would do better as truck drivers to go work at McDonald's compared to what we go through for the rate of pay

Replied on Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 09:04 PM CST

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Well at least you're one of the very few the smartest to say no to keep freight and refuse to move your truck all next to nothing pay I just wish this whole goddamn country would shut the f*** down for maybe about a good month and show how worthless the Democratic leadership is and maybe get the race to increase because nobody's working I mean we should act like these damn children are under 30 years old these days nobody wants to work they're $15 an hour their signs out there in Seattle $19 an hour to work at McDonald's in Montana $17 an hour to work at McDonald's and here we we would do better as truck drivers to go work at McDonald's compared to what we go through for the rate of pay

Replied on Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 12:42 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Well at least you're one of the very few the smartest to say no to keep freight and refuse to move your truck all next to nothing pay I just wish this whole goddamn country would shut the f*** down for maybe about a good month and show how worthless the Democratic leadership is and maybe get the race to increase because nobody's working I mean we should act like these damn children are under 30 years old these days nobody wants to work they're $15 an hour their signs out there in Seattle $19 an hour to work at McDonald's in Montana $17 an hour to work at McDonald's and here we we would do better as truck drivers to go work at McDonald's compared to what we go through for the rate of pay" Ok, so go to McDonalds then. You just said you can make more money there, so what is stopping you? Good Luck.

Replied on Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 12:42 PM CST

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Quote: "Well at least you're one of the very few the smartest to say no to keep freight and refuse to move your truck all next to nothing pay I just wish this whole goddamn country would shut the f*** down for maybe about a good month and show how worthless the Democratic leadership is and maybe get the race to increase because nobody's working I mean we should act like these damn children are under 30 years old these days nobody wants to work they're $15 an hour their signs out there in Seattle $19 an hour to work at McDonald's in Montana $17 an hour to work at McDonald's and here we we would do better as truck drivers to go work at McDonald's compared to what we go through for the rate of pay"

Ok, so go to McDonalds then. You just said you can make more money there, so what is stopping you? Good Luck.

Replied on Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 08:44 PM CST + 1 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Smart business owners promote the value of the product they sell, while steering wheel holders negotiate against themselves and tell the world the service they are selling isn’t worth more than the cost of a hamburger?

Replied on Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 08:46 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I agree! The problem we have at the moment is fools (carriers & brokers) that saw dollar signs during the pandemic flooded the trucking market. These people had no business getting involved, and now we are all paying the price. Some of this problem is lack of education & experience in commodity density, location wait times, and the general ebb & flow of commodities by region and season compared to van freight. For example, I got an email from a broker this morning about a load of beet shreds going from the thumb of Michigan to North Carolina. The southeast is a bit of a dead zone for commodities coming back to the Midwest... I emailed him back that I may be interested in the load.... He quickly responded by saying he had the load covered for $76 a ton..... Since most guys would be lucky to get 20 tons of shreds (heaped) on a load, that makes that load $2.24 a loaded mile.... I emailed him back saying I would need $150 a ton (almost double) on my belt trailer.... Just say no to cheap freight. " North Carolina isn't so much a dead spot but has plenty of cheap cottonseed loads. I can get decent rates on those loads due to Midwest drivers grabbing backhauls. I don't haul loads out of the Midwest to get back to Georgia. I have broker that started dropping the rate on a lane back to South Carolina. Quit hauling because he is getting covered at his cheaper rate.I don't let a broker use my home base as a way to offer a cheaper rate. I don't have to be home every weekend. Many will take the cheaper rate just to get home.

Replied on Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 08:46 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "I agree! The problem we have at the moment is fools (carriers & brokers) that saw dollar signs during the pandemic flooded the trucking market. These people had no business getting involved, and now we are all paying the price. Some of this problem is lack of education & experience in commodity density, location wait times, and the general ebb & flow of commodities by region and season compared to van freight. For example, I got an email from a broker this morning about a load of beet shreds going from the thumb of Michigan to North Carolina. The southeast is a bit of a dead zone for commodities coming back to the Midwest... I emailed him back that I may be interested in the load.... He quickly responded by saying he had the load covered for $76 a ton..... Since most guys would be lucky to get 20 tons of shreds (heaped) on a load, that makes that load $2.24 a loaded mile.... I emailed him back saying I would need $150 a ton (almost double) on my belt trailer.... Just say no to cheap freight. "

North Carolina isn't so much a dead spot but has plenty of cheap cottonseed loads. I can get decent rates on those loads due to Midwest drivers grabbing backhauls. I don't haul loads out of the Midwest to get back to Georgia. I have broker that started dropping the rate on a lane back to South Carolina. Quit hauling because he is getting covered at his cheaper rate.I don't let a broker use my home base as a way to offer a cheaper rate. I don't have to be home every weekend. Many will take the cheaper rate just to get home.

Replied on Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 08:49 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Mr nickles..why u favors all the tate cuttin badtards and people stating facts about the rates and brokers..hust curious..ur always putting everyone down..not once have u posted a positive post..McDonald's is hiring people just like u..if u can flip a burger without b****** and beeing negative

Replied on Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 08:49 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. And there u have one of the cheap a** fool's u described...must hit a nerve there.i done some lookin back on this site ...every commentu make..favors these cheap rate cuttin bastards.. may be u should work a t McDonald's..that wa.

Replied on Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 06:57 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I used to go home anytime I heard about a strike. I'd be home in my car nearly getting run over by big trucks. Honestly it's pointless. Thankfully I've been smart with my money and have some rental properties that keep me from stressing too much. Hoppers killed sand hauling. Which is what most of my work used to be. The rest of pneumatic work has been killed by freight company's brokers. Since 2019 pneumatic rates have been cut in half. We all know what fuel and equipment cost have done since then. Literally. Yet that crap still gets moved. It's our own fault. I accepted it years ago. The only silver lining I can see on the horizon is this recession that keeps being whispered about. Yes it will suck but at least equipment cost should come back to reality.

Replied on Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 06:57 PM CST

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I used to go home anytime I heard about a strike. I'd be home in my car nearly getting run over by big trucks. Honestly it's pointless. Thankfully I've been smart with my money and have some rental properties that keep me from stressing too much. Hoppers killed sand hauling. Which is what most of my work used to be. The rest of pneumatic work has been killed by freight company's brokers. Since 2019 pneumatic rates have been cut in half. We all know what fuel and equipment cost have done since then. Literally. Yet that crap still gets moved. It's our own fault. I accepted it years ago. The only silver lining I can see on the horizon is this recession that keeps being whispered about. Yes it will suck but at least equipment cost should come back to reality.

Replied on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 12:08 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Well at least you're one of the very few the smartest to say no to keep freight and refuse to move your truck all next to nothing pay I just wish this whole goddamn country would shut the f* down for maybe about a good month and show how worthless the Democratic leadership is and maybe get the race to increase because nobody's working I mean we should act like these damn children are under 30 years old these days nobody wants to work they're $15 an hour their signs out there in Seattle $19 an hour to work at McDonald's in Montana $17 an hour to work at McDonald's and here we we would do better as truck drivers to go work at McDonald's compared to what we go through for the rate of pay" IF truckers would unite and as you say F--- those low rates and high fuel prices WHen you talk about shutting down guys say oh I cant do that i need to make my payment If you are that close to making a payment you might as give up cuz you are probably not going to make it anyway Really if you just shut it down for one day aweek both stop delivery's and buy NO fuel one day a week I'm pretty sure you would see fuel come down and rates start going up The other is all companies need to put trucks wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy higher on their protities list when it comes to loading and unloading If you are open at 7 have things tready to go at 7 not 730 or 8 dont order more trucks than you can load in a reasonable time I sat an hour and half at a place last week the old F------ took an hour and half to load 1 truck some of it not his fault he was the only there So the company needs to hire to help . The place where it was going only unloaded until 2 and it was only like 2 1/2 hrs away so at his rate of loading not many trucks could load cuz he quit loading at 1-2 . after waiting an hr and 1/2 I backed in a little sooner than he wanted and came up and started bitching like an old crabby F----- that he was ,I told him I dint get paid to listen to his s* and left empty ,f* him and his company i was just stopping to get little extra money on the way rather the dead heading ,I m not a career driver , heavy equipment operator in the summer , hopper is just a winter gig for me , Nobody talks to me like that over something so trival , but any way there is NO respect for drivers what so ever out there ,grow a set and stick up for your self both for money and time and this stupid s* waiting a month to get paid is another crock a s* ,you go work for your money then some factor MFER sits on there a and wants 2-3% to take the money you worked for how f****** stupid is that ,wake up guys and unite and get some respect truckers could pull wayyyyyy more weight than the NRA if the would unite , and it applies to O/O and drivers a like ,I pull a belly dump in the summer time in the arrowhead of Mn and we get paid by the the hour 115-150 hr depending on who you work for and how reliable you are that good money ,when we sit we are on the clock !!!! . I could go on and on but wise up and get what you desreve oh just one point back to waiting 30 days to get paid I dont believe there is another business or job that gets paid once a month for chirst sake , fuel is 10k a month !!!!!!!!!

Replied on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 12:08 PM CST

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IF truckers would unite and as you say F--- those low rates and high fuel prices

WHen you talk about shutting down guys say oh I cant do that i need to make my payment

If you are that close to making a payment you might as give up cuz you are probably not going to make it anyway

Really if you just shut it down for one day aweek both stop delivery's and buy NO fuel one day a week

I'm pretty sure you would see fuel come down and rates start going up

The other is all companies need to put trucks wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy higher on their protities list when it comes to loading and unloading

If you are open at 7 have things tready to go at 7 not 730 or 8 dont order more trucks than you can load in a reasonable time

I sat an hour and half at a place last week the old F------ took an hour and half to load 1 truck some of it not his fault he was the only there

So the company needs to hire to help . The place where it was going only unloaded until 2 and it was only like 2 1/2 hrs away so at his rate of loading

not many trucks could load cuz he quit loading at 1-2 . after waiting an hr and 1/2 I backed in a little sooner than he wanted and came up and started bitching like an old crabby F----- that he was ,I told him I dint get paid to listen to his s*** and left empty ,f*** him and his company i was just stopping to get little extra money on the way rather the dead heading ,I m not a career driver , heavy equipment operator in the summer , hopper is just a winter gig for me , Nobody talks to me like that over something so trival , but any way there is NO respect for drivers what so ever out there ,grow a set and stick up for your self both for money and time and this stupid s*** waiting a month to get paid is another crock a s*** ,you go work for your money then some factor MFER sits on there a** and wants 2-3% to take the money you worked for how f****** stupid is that ,wake up guys and unite and get some respect truckers could pull wayyyyyy more weight than the NRA if the would unite , and it applies to O/O and drivers a like ,I pull a belly dump in the summer time in the arrowhead of Mn and we get paid by the the hour 115-150 hr depending on who you work for and how reliable you are that good money ,when we sit we are on the clock !!!! . I could go on and on but wise up and get what you desreve oh just one point back to waiting 30 days to get paid I dont believe there is another business or job that gets paid once a month for chirst sake , fuel is 10k a month !!!!!!!!!

Replied on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 12:08 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I used to go home anytime I heard about a strike. I'd be home in my car nearly getting run over by big trucks. Honestly it's pointless. Thankfully I've been smart with my money and have some rental properties that keep me from stressing too much. Hoppers killed sand hauling. Which is what most of my work used to be. The rest of pneumatic work has been killed by freight company's brokers. Since 2019 pneumatic rates have been cut in half. We all know what fuel and equipment cost have done since then. Literally. Yet that crap still gets moved. It's our own fault. I accepted it years ago. The only silver lining I can see on the horizon is this recession that keeps being whispered about. Yes it will suck but at least equipment cost should come back to reality." You are exactly right! You will never get trucks to shut down! I know we will not shut down, because we have CUSTOMERS that depend on us to move their loads and pay us well to do it. Those who went dollar chasing when, rates were high in other sectors, are now returning to the bulk sector, BUT if you stayed loyal to your bulk customers while everyone was dollar chasing, you should have no problem making money now. I know that it is hard to find good, loyal customers, but when you do you need to promote them and deliver great service and stay in communication with them about their products and loads! It's not rocket science, its trucking!

Replied on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 12:08 PM CST

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Quote: "I used to go home anytime I heard about a strike. I'd be home in my car nearly getting run over by big trucks. Honestly it's pointless. Thankfully I've been smart with my money and have some rental properties that keep me from stressing too much. Hoppers killed sand hauling. Which is what most of my work used to be. The rest of pneumatic work has been killed by freight company's brokers. Since 2019 pneumatic rates have been cut in half. We all know what fuel and equipment cost have done since then. Literally. Yet that crap still gets moved. It's our own fault. I accepted it years ago. The only silver lining I can see on the horizon is this recession that keeps being whispered about. Yes it will suck but at least equipment cost should come back to reality."

You are exactly right! You will never get trucks to shut down! I know we will not shut down, because we have CUSTOMERS that depend on us to move their loads and pay us well to do it. Those who went dollar chasing when, rates were high in other sectors, are now returning to the bulk sector, BUT if you stayed loyal to your bulk customers while everyone was dollar chasing, you should have no problem making money now. I know that it is hard to find good, loyal customers, but when you do you need to promote them and deliver great service and stay in communication with them about their products and loads! It's not rocket science, its trucking!

Replied on Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 07:04 AM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. GM, Ford, Chrysler and practically everyone else lay employees off when sales drop and revenue slumps, meanwhile truckers do the exact opposite, and then wonder why the industry continues to go backwards. Tell me that’s not the definition of stupidity.

Replied on Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 10:13 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Ok, so go to McDonalds then. You just said you can make more money there, so what is stopping you? Good Luck. " McDonalds doesn't have many full time jobs. Oh and instead of a broker treating you like you were born yesterday, you have some self entitled teenager (who is probably your boss) treating you like you're an idiot.

Replied on Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:13 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "You are exactly right! You will never get trucks to shut down! I know we will not shut down, because we have CUSTOMERS that depend on us to move their loads and pay us well to do it. Those who went dollar chasing when, rates were high in other sectors, are now returning to the bulk sector, BUT if you stayed loyal to your bulk customers while everyone was dollar chasing, you should have no problem making money now. I know that it is hard to find good, loyal customers, but when you do you need to promote them and deliver great service and stay in communication with them about their products and loads! It's not rocket science, its trucking!" I'm not sure what you mean by loyalty. Because that doesn't exist in business. All it means if you keep getting your contract renewed is that your bids are somewhere near the cheapest. I move a lot of stuff for one big company. There aren't any appointments. So being late isn't a thing. I have no issues at all. Even joke and laugh with the decision makers. But you best believe when that quarterly or annual contract is up I'll have to slug it out with everyone else. The only guarantee is the shipper will get their product moved. I started driving in 1998 and bought my first truck in 2000. Like I said above I used my money to buy rental property and have several trucks leased to small carriers. I drive because I throughly enjoy it. Not the highway driving. I hate that. I love riding down country two lanes, seeing what I can see. Truck drivers not working together and thinking that brokers and shippers care about them is what's wrong with our industry. We do it to ourselves. I figured that out 20 years ago. That's why my situation is different from most guys. Everyone sees us as a payday. Right now at this very moment over half the states have zero pneumatic loads on this app. Do you think there are no loads in those states? Do you think pneumatic trucks will get a discount for the app? 🤔

Replied on Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:13 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "You are exactly right! You will never get trucks to shut down! I know we will not shut down, because we have CUSTOMERS that depend on us to move their loads and pay us well to do it. Those who went dollar chasing when, rates were high in other sectors, are now returning to the bulk sector, BUT if you stayed loyal to your bulk customers while everyone was dollar chasing, you should have no problem making money now. I know that it is hard to find good, loyal customers, but when you do you need to promote them and deliver great service and stay in communication with them about their products and loads! It's not rocket science, its trucking!"

I'm not sure what you mean by loyalty. Because that doesn't exist in business. All it means if you keep getting your contract renewed is that your bids are somewhere near the cheapest. I move a lot of stuff for one big company. There aren't any appointments. So being late isn't a thing. I have no issues at all. Even joke and laugh with the decision makers. But you best believe when that quarterly or annual contract is up I'll have to slug it out with everyone else. The only guarantee is the shipper will get their product moved. I started driving in 1998 and bought my first truck in 2000. Like I said above I used my money to buy rental property and have several trucks leased to small carriers. I drive because I throughly enjoy it. Not the highway driving. I hate that. I love riding down country two lanes, seeing what I can see. Truck drivers not working together and thinking that brokers and shippers care about them is what's wrong with our industry. We do it to ourselves. I figured that out 20 years ago. That's why my situation is different from most guys. Everyone sees us as a payday. Right now at this very moment over half the states have zero pneumatic loads on this app. Do you think there are no loads in those states? Do you think pneumatic trucks will get a discount for the app? 🤔

Replied on Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 12:18 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I'm not sure what you mean by loyalty. Because that doesn't exist in business. All it means if you keep getting your contract renewed is that your bids are somewhere near the cheapest. I move a lot of stuff for one big company. There aren't any appointments. So being late isn't a thing. I have no issues at all. Even joke and laugh with the decision makers. But you best believe when that quarterly or annual contract is up I'll have to slug it out with everyone else. The only guarantee is the shipper will get their product moved. I started driving in 1998 and bought my first truck in 2000. Like I said above I used my money to buy rental property and have several trucks leased to small carriers. I drive because I throughly enjoy it. Not the highway driving. I hate that. I love riding down country two lanes, seeing what I can see. Truck drivers not working together and thinking that brokers and shippers care about them is what's wrong with our industry. We do it to ourselves. I figured that out 20 years ago. That's why my situation is different from most guys. Everyone sees us as a payday. Right now at this very moment over half the states have zero pneumatic loads on this app. Do you think there are no loads in those states? Do you think pneumatic trucks will get a discount for the app? 🤔" Since you own rental properties what’s your opinion on rent control? Seems like it started at the local levels and is now being pushed at the federal level by Biden.

Replied on Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 12:18 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "I'm not sure what you mean by loyalty. Because that doesn't exist in business. All it means if you keep getting your contract renewed is that your bids are somewhere near the cheapest. I move a lot of stuff for one big company. There aren't any appointments. So being late isn't a thing. I have no issues at all. Even joke and laugh with the decision makers. But you best believe when that quarterly or annual contract is up I'll have to slug it out with everyone else. The only guarantee is the shipper will get their product moved. I started driving in 1998 and bought my first truck in 2000. Like I said above I used my money to buy rental property and have several trucks leased to small carriers. I drive because I throughly enjoy it. Not the highway driving. I hate that. I love riding down country two lanes, seeing what I can see. Truck drivers not working together and thinking that brokers and shippers care about them is what's wrong with our industry. We do it to ourselves. I figured that out 20 years ago. That's why my situation is different from most guys. Everyone sees us as a payday. Right now at this very moment over half the states have zero pneumatic loads on this app. Do you think there are no loads in those states? Do you think pneumatic trucks will get a discount for the app? 🤔"

Since you own rental properties what’s your opinion on rent control? Seems like it started at the local levels and is now being pushed at the federal level by Biden.

Replied on Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 09:08 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I'm not sure what you mean by loyalty. Because that doesn't exist in business. All it means if you keep getting your contract renewed is that your bids are somewhere near the cheapest. I move a lot of stuff for one big company. There aren't any appointments. So being late isn't a thing. I have no issues at all. Even joke and laugh with the decision makers. But you best believe when that quarterly or annual contract is up I'll have to slug it out with everyone else. The only guarantee is the shipper will get their product moved. I started driving in 1998 and bought my first truck in 2000. Like I said above I used my money to buy rental property and have several trucks leased to small carriers. I drive because I throughly enjoy it. Not the highway driving. I hate that. I love riding down country two lanes, seeing what I can see. Truck drivers not working together and thinking that brokers and shippers care about them is what's wrong with our industry. We do it to ourselves. I figured that out 20 years ago. That's why my situation is different from most guys. Everyone sees us as a payday. Right now at this very moment over half the states have zero pneumatic loads on this app. Do you think there are no loads in those states? Do you think pneumatic trucks will get a discount for the app? 🤔" Oh but there is some loyalty. They expect some value.

Replied on Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 09:08 AM CST

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Oh but there is some loyalty. They expect some value.