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Jul 20, 2017 at 06:32 PM CST
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Mid-West Truckers Association, Inc.

Legislative & Regulatory Update

July 19, 2017

CONGRESS TO CONSIDER TWO YEAR DELAY ON ELD's;

CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMAN TODAY!



Legislation has been filed in the U.S. House of Representatives to postpone the Dec. 18, 2017electronic logging device (ELD) compliance date for two years.



HR 3282, the ELD Extension Act of 2017, was introduced last night by Texas Congressman Brian Babin. U.S. House members have said the ELD mandate places a heavy burden on small carriers, along with concerns about technical issues surrounding the equipment and the lack of protocol for handling information on the ELD systems.



The bill's introduction comes one day after another House Committee called for an ELD study after complaints and concerns that USDOT was not ready, nor were the ELD systems sufficiently in place to meet the December 18 implementation.



At this stage, we urge you to contact your member of Congress and ask them to sign-on as a co-sponsor of HR 3282. Go to this website to find your congressman: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/IL#representatives

This is the most positive sign that a delay is possible. It's not a repeal - just a two-year delay to get this "mess" straightened out.

Let us know if you get a response from your congressman.



Replied on Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:24 AM CST
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I called my Congress people again yesterday. You get a smart ass intern and they blow you off. Very discouraging. At this time however I don't think McCain cares as he fights for his life. Very discouraging. As a life member of OOIDA I'm disappointed with them also. I have been a client of their drug program and recently that's a disaster. The manager just doesn't understand the urgency.
Sorry off subject. Congress people need to listen.

Art Pfluger
Replied on Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:16 PM CST
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Congress needs term limits and the same health insurance that we the people have.
Replied on Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:49 PM CST
You can follow the progress of this bill on GovTrack.US by signing up for daily email updates.

Today's actions:

This bill was referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure which will consider it before sending it to the House floor for consideration.
Replied on Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:05 AM CST
Progress as of July 24: Additional Sponsers added -

New Cosponsor: Rep. Steve King [R-IA4]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Mac Thornberry [R-TX13]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Patrick “Pat” Tiberi [R-OH12]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Thomas Massie [R-KY4]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Ralph Norman [R-SC5]

The bill now has 8 cosponsors (8 Republicans)

What does it mean to have additional co-sponsers on a bill? Nothing, really. Co-sponsership does nothing to increase the successfulness of a passing bill. It's similar to adding a sponser sticker to a NASCAR driver - it only gives you name recognition and bragging rights to those watching.
Replied on Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:33 AM CST
As of July 26:

New Cosponsor: Rep. Rick Allen [R-GA12]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Doug LaMalfa [R-CA1]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Frank Lucas [R-OK3]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Steve Stivers [R-OH15]

New Cosponsor: Rep. David Young [R-IA3]

The bill now has 13 cosponsors (13 Republicans).

Replied on Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM CST
As of 7/28:

H.R. 3282: ELD Extension Act of 2017

New Cosponsor: Rep. Kevin Brady [R-TX8]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Lynn Jenkins [R-KS2]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Kenny Marchant [R-TX24]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Todd Rokita [R-IN4]

New Cosponsor: Rep. James Sensenbrenner [R-WI5]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Jason Smith [R-MO8]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Glenn Thompson [R-PA5]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Jackie Walorski [R-IN2]

The bill now has 21 cosponsors (21 Republicans).

At this time there is no indication this bill will be reviewed by the assigned committee anytime soon. If the bill is not reviewed it cannot be referred to the House of Reps for voting or debate before their upcoming 5 week break and then passed on to the Senate for voting or debate.
Replied on Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 08:43 PM CST
7/31

New Cosponsor: Rep. Jim Banks [R-IN3]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Mike Bost [R-IL12]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX11]

New Cosponsor: Rep. John Culberson [R-TX7]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Mike Johnson [R-LA4]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Pete Sessions [R-TX32]

The bill now has 35 cosponsors (35 Republicans)
Replied on Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 02:11 PM CST
New Cosponsor: Rep. Tom Graves [R-GA14]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Mike Kelly [R-PA3]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Raúl Labrador [R-ID1]

The bill now has 38 cosponsors (38 Republicans).
Replied on Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 12:39 PM CST
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This morning I contacted the US Transportation and Infrastructure Committee - The bill has not been assigned for a Full Committee review or Mark Up and is not on the calendar as of right now to be reviewed or discussed. There is no indication at this time of the when this bill will be read.
Replied on Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 11:51 PM CST
Thanks for the update

Art Pfluger
Replied on Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 04:30 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: "This morning I contacted the US Transportation and Infrastructure Committee - The bill has not been assigned for a Full Committee review or Mark Up and is not on the calendar as of right now to be reviewed or discussed. There is no indication at this time of the when this bill will be read."

Bahahah !
Replied on Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 07:06 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: TROY JEFFERS
Quote: "Bahahah !"

Not sure why this is funny? I'm just following the progress of the proposal for those who don't have time.
Replied on Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 10:04 AM CST
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nor do I see why it is funny thank you for the updates I find this information very important and thanks again
Replied on Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 11:45 AM CST
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I also appreciate the information. Please continue.

Art Pfluger
Replied on Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 11:50 AM CST
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That's very nice of you George, thank you.

The Senate and HoR are now on break for August. It is unlikely that this bill will be reviewed in time, let alone passed with less than 140 days left before being enacted. Because Civics class was a long time ago, and because some people have asked where we are in the process and why it is taking so long, this is the process:

1. Introduction: Only a member of Congress may introduce a bill.

2. Referral to committee: The leader of the house in which the bill was introduced then refers the bill to an appropriate committee or committees.

3. Committee action: The committees can refer the bill to subcommittees for action, hearings, markup sessions, and votes. The committee can also kill the bill by doing nothing at all, a process known as pigeonholing. *****This is where the bill is at now*****

4. Referral to the full body: If a committee approves a bill, the bill is sent on to the full House or Senate.

5. Floor debate and vote: The full body debates the bill and then votes.

6. Conference committee: Often, the two houses produce different versions of a single bill. When this happens, both houses appoint members to a conference committee, which works to combine the versions. After the conference committee’s report, both houses must vote on the new consolidated bill and win a majority vote.

7. The President: The president’s only official legislative duty is to sign or veto bills passed by Congress. If the president signs the bill, it becomes law. If the bill is vetoed, it goes back to Congress, which can override the veto with a two-thirds vote in both houses.

Before becoming frustrated with the process, please keep in mind our Constitution was written in such a way to make this a slow process to keep it open for debate and to receive input from the public. The bills for ELD mandate were started over 10 years ago during the Bush Administration, and became law 7 years ago under the Obama Administration. The ELD Extension bill was written as a Hail Mary pass and is not expected to succeed in time under the Trump Administration. If there are continued updates following the return to Session, I will post them, but the bill will most likely be pidgeon holed by the committee and die.

If you are looking for future change, on this or any other topic under consideration, look to your Representatives and Senators. And remind them elections are coming.
Replied on Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 05:55 PM CST
New Cosponsor: Rep. Paul Gosar [R-AZ4]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Darin LaHood [R-IL18]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer [R-MO3]

New Cosponsor: Rep. Lloyd Smucker [R-PA16]

The bill now has 42 cosponsors (42 Republicans).

Replied on Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:43 AM CST
Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: " New Cosponsor: Rep. Paul Gosar [R-AZ4] New Cosponsor: Rep. Darin LaHood [R-IL18] New Cosponsor: Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer [R-MO3] New Cosponsor: Rep. Lloyd Smucker [R-PA16] The bill now has 42 cosponsors (42 Republicans). "

I have written letters, called and e-mailed and not gotten any response from Rep. Tom Garrett from Virginia.
Replied on Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:57 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: STONE GREGORY
Quote: "I have written letters, called and e-mailed and not gotten any response from Rep. Tom Garrett from Virginia."

1) They are not in session right now, so if your communications are recent they may not be getting accessed immediately
2) DO NOT GIVE UP
3) Reminder: being a cosponsor on a bill just means the rep's staff will get updates directly, not that your HOR has any knowledge of the bill or bill's contents. Educate them.
Replied on Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 09:56 AM CST
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New Cosponsor: Rep. Mike Coffman [R-CO6]
The bill now has 43 cosponsors (43 Republicans).
Replied on Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 08:51 AM CST
Letter issued September 6, 2017:

Dear ATA Members:

Tonight the U.S. House of Representatives rejected an effort to delay the December 18th implementation date for ELDs. Thank you for those who contacted their Members of Congress to ensure that the rule is implemented as scheduled.

ATA has been active in defending ELD technology, including drafting a letter to FMCSA in support of its regulation. Today, FMCSA answered that letter with even more support for implementing the rule as planned in December.

ATA has issued a press release this evening thanking the U.S. House of Representatives for preserving this important safety rule.

Thank you,
Replied on Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 10:41 AM CST
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More proof that we do not have a free enterprise system of government in this country, but rather a Facist one.. In a free enterprise system, the market place would have decided the fate of the ELD. Instead we had some Eliteists from a couple of big companies go up to Capitol Hill, and write a check out to our lawmakers to shove this down our throat...The merging of corporate and state interests=Facism. Now that they have openly demonstrated this to me, I have to wonder if I should sell my truck, get a union job, become a Bernie sanders supporter, and advocate taxing the shit out of the CEO's at the big megga trucking companies?
Replied on Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 01:15 PM CST
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Its a sad day for the industry. Those in control have no clue. The rich will get richer
Replied on Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 06:05 PM CST
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Looks like the ATA asked their own questions and that letter from FMCSA looks like the "fake letterhead" I received once, asking for my bank account information. Maybe the ATA answered their own letter. ATA propaganda trying to make everyone give up and quit protesting. Keep contacting your representatives, let them know the ATA does not represent owner operators and small businesses. The delay might just slide through with other bills.
Replied on Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 07:06 AM CST
Haven't heard much talk about it. What's going to happen if one doesn't or refuses to install these elds?
Replied on Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 10:42 AM CST
Let's find out. I read an article saying that independent o/o's will need two accounts. One as driver and one as administrator. That will be interesting. Two logs... Legal...
Replied on Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 01:32 PM CST
you will be shut diwn on the spot until ELD is installed, read an article yeaterday that they re not gonna start shutting down non eld trucks until after 1st of year
Replied on Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 01:34 PM CST
and also heard yesterday that the bill has been pulled, doesnt matter Mitch wouldve killed it in the senate anyways....hes not gonna let something like that happen to make his wife and her dept look stupid....
Replied on Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 04:03 PM CST
Why do we keep putting these Democrats in office that aren't interested in anything but lining their pockets and giving away our country. Rediculous
Replied on Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 04:56 PM CST
well, its nit hust dumbycrats, trump is suppossed to be a repub, the house and senate are controlled by repubs they could kill this in 2 seconds but they re ALL in on it....the only diff between the 2 parties is that repubs think they can run dumb big gooberment programs better that dumbycrats can!!!!
Replied on Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 08:21 PM CST
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Everyone is going to stand by this stupidity until Walmart or Amazon start having trouble with shipments. Then we'll all rethink it.

Art Pfluger
Replied on Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 09:20 PM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF GLINES
Quote: "you will be shut diwn on the spot until ELD is installed, read an article yeaterday that they re not gonna start shutting down non eld trucks until after 1st of year"

Are they going to be waiting for me at the end of my driveway on December 18?
Replied on Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 07:31 AM CST
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i doubt it, but after the 1st of the year they wont need to sit at the end of your driveway, they ll just do more randon pull overs to see if your eld compliant, i can only guess what that fine would be....
Replied on Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 02:06 PM CST
Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: "New Cosponsor: Rep. Mike Coffman [R-CO6] The bill now has 43 cosponsors (43 Republicans)."

I believe HR 3282 now has 56 co-sponsors.
Replied on Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 04:46 PM CST
Dear all - I apologize for not having updated with the latest cosponsers - I have moved over to RFG Logistics and need to catch up with the notices as I get settled into the new position. I will try to do so before the end of day Friday.
Replied on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 08:04 AM CST
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56 cosponsors (55R, 1D) (show)

Grothman, Glenn [R-WI6] (joined Jul 20, 2017)
Posey, Bill [R-FL8] (joined Jul 20, 2017)
Weber, Randy [R-TX14] (joined Jul 20, 2017)
King, Steve [R-IA4] (joined Jul 24, 2017)
Massie, Thomas [R-KY4] (joined Jul 24, 2017)
Norman, Ralph [R-SC5] (joined Jul 24, 2017)
Thornberry, Mac [R-TX13] (joined Jul 24, 2017)
Tiberi, Patrick “Pat” [R-OH12] (joined Jul 24, 2017)
Allen, Rick [R-GA12] (joined Jul 25, 2017)
LaMalfa, Doug [R-CA1] (joined Jul 25, 2017)
Lucas, Frank [R-OK3] (joined Jul 25, 2017)
Stivers, Steve [R-OH15] (joined Jul 25, 2017)
Young, David [R-IA3] (joined Jul 25, 2017)
Brady, Kevin [R-TX8] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Jenkins, Lynn [R-KS2] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Marchant, Kenny [R-TX24] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Rokita, Todd [R-IN4] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Sensenbrenner, James [R-WI5] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Smith, Jason [R-MO8] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Thompson, Glenn [R-PA5] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Walorski, Jackie [R-IN2] (joined Jul 26, 2017)
Cramer, Kevin [R-ND0] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Knight, Steve [R-CA25] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Marino, Tom [R-PA10] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Marshall, Roger [R-KS1] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Noem, Kristi [R-SD0] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Olson, Pete [R-TX22] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Shimkus, John [R-IL15] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Yoder, Kevin [R-KS3] (joined Jul 27, 2017)
Banks, Jim [R-IN3] (joined Jul 28, 2017)
Bost, Mike [R-IL12] (joined Jul 28, 2017)
Conaway, Michael [R-TX11] (joined Jul 28, 2017)
Culberson, John [R-TX7] (joined Jul 28, 2017)
Johnson, Mike [R-LA4] (joined Jul 28, 2017)
Sessions, Pete [R-TX32] (joined Jul 28, 2017)
Graves, Tom [R-GA14] (joined Aug 1, 2017)
Kelly, Mike [R-PA3] (joined Aug 1, 2017)
Labrador, Raúl [R-ID1] (joined Aug 1, 2017)
Gosar, Paul [R-AZ4] (joined Aug 18, 2017)
LaHood, Darin [R-IL18] (joined Aug 18, 2017)
Luetkemeyer, Blaine [R-MO3] (joined Aug 18, 2017)
Smucker, Lloyd [R-PA16] (joined Aug 18, 2017)
Coffman, Mike [R-CO6] (joined Aug 22, 2017)
Chabot, Steve [R-OH1] (joined Sep 5, 2017)
Peterson, Collin [D-MN7] (joined Sep 5, 2017)
Huizenga, Bill [R-MI2] (joined Sep 7, 2017)
Gianforte, Greg [R-MT0] (joined Sep 11, 2017)
Higgins, Clay [R-LA3] (joined Sep 11, 2017)
Hartzler, Vicky [R-MO4] (joined Sep 12, 2017)
Cheney, Liz [R-WY0] (joined Sep 25, 2017)
Pearce, Stevan “Steve” [R-NM2] (joined Sep 25, 2017)
Griffith, Morgan [R-VA9] (joined Sep 28, 2017)
Abraham, Ralph [R-LA5] (joined Oct 3, 2017)
Franks, Trent [R-AZ8] (joined Oct 3, 2017)
Gohmert, Louie [R-TX1] (joined Oct 3, 2017)
Hurd, Will [R-TX23] (joined Oct 11, 2017)
Replied on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 08:21 AM CST
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Mr. Robles,
Thank you very much for all the information!!! That is awesome of all the work you just did for all of us. The country need people who care in goverment offices. Run !!!!
Replied on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 08:58 AM CST
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Thank you for taking the time to post these updates, it is greatly appreciated.
Replied on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:23 AM CST
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You all do realise that this could pass the house 435-0 and do nothing Mitch will never let it see the light of day in the senate right? most of you just need to accept the fact that your gomna be e-logged come december...STOP hoping and waiting for the gov't to save you from this nightmare....
Replied on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:44 AM CST
Jeff you must be a democrat Don't Tell me what to do.
Replied on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:00 PM CST
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A democrat? Far from one buddy! But i am a realist, until some of you wise up and are willing to shut your trucks down for a week or two, just accept your fate...but as most truck drivers live pay check to pay check it aint gonna happen...thats just tge cold hard truth of it...
Replied on Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 02:49 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: JEFF GLINES
Quote: "You all do realise that this could pass the house 435-0 and do nothing Mitch will never let it see the light of day in the senate right? most of you just need to accept the fact that your gomna be e-logged come december...STOP hoping and waiting for the gov't to save you from this nightmare.... "

If what you say is true, then why is the ATA so upset about this? I was told jessi Ventura could never get elected, yet he did (by a land slide)... Then I was told that Trump could never get elected, and he did. I will continue to hold on to my hope, as I do not live in North Korea, and the will of the people can still prevail.
Replied on Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 10:24 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "If what you say is true, then why is the ATA so upset about this? I was told jessi Ventura could never get elected, yet he did (by a land slide)... Then I was told that Trump could never get elected, and he did. I will continue to hold on to my hope, as I do not live in North Korea, and the will of the people can still prevail."

Oh i understand what your saying dave, but the truth is they (dems and repubs) dont give 2 shits about the will of the people, all they care about is the will of the party!!! its been 10 months since inauguation, we still have obama care, no wall, 30 million + illegals in this country, 20 trillion in debt, NOTHING has changed regardless of what WE THE PEOPLE have said thru our ballots since 2010....they simply dont care!! the only diff between the 2 parties is that repubs think they can run dumb big govt socialist programs and ideas just slightly better than dems can...anyone who thinks repubs are going to take 1 shred of power and control and power away from the federal govt and give it back to the people is living in la la land....aint gonna happen...as far as the ATA goes, i have now seen them TWICE with Trump, i doubt they are too upset, they have congress and president bullshitted into the ELD farce....
Replied on Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 05:15 PM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF GLINES
Quote: "Oh i understand what your saying dave, but the truth is they (dems and repubs) dont give 2 shits about the will of the people, all they care about is the will of the party!!! its been 10 months since inauguation, we still have obama care, no wall, 30 million + illegals in this country, 20 trillion in debt, NOTHING has changed regardless of what WE THE PEOPLE have said thru our ballots since 2010....they simply dont care!! the only diff between the 2 parties is that repubs think they can run dumb big govt socialist programs and ideas just slightly better than dems can...anyone who thinks repubs are going to take 1 shred of power and control and power away from the federal govt and give it back to the people is living in la la land....aint gonna happen...as far as the ATA goes, i have now seen them TWICE with Trump, i doubt they are too upset, they have congress and president bullshitted into the ELD farce...."

Actually they do the will of the donor class. Party no longer has as much pull as the almighty dollar. Both parties pretty much the same fiscally, about the only thing that differentiates them are social issues.
With the senate majority leader being married to the department of transportation secretary I think it doubtful we see any change. His only accomplishment has been the Supreme Court appointments passage. His 10 month report card is pretty sorry. I hope the good people of the common wealth of Kentucky find it in their best interest to retire him.
Replied on Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 02:48 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF GLINES
Quote: "Oh i understand what your saying dave, but the truth is they (dems and repubs) dont give 2 shits about the will of the people, all they care about is the will of the party!!! its been 10 months since inauguation, we still have obama care, no wall, 30 million + illegals in this country, 20 trillion in debt, NOTHING has changed regardless of what WE THE PEOPLE have said thru our ballots since 2010....they simply dont care!! the only diff between the 2 parties is that repubs think they can run dumb big govt socialist programs and ideas just slightly better than dems can...anyone who thinks repubs are going to take 1 shred of power and control and power away from the federal govt and give it back to the people is living in la la land....aint gonna happen...as far as the ATA goes, i have now seen them TWICE with Trump, i doubt they are too upset, they have congress and president bullshitted into the ELD farce...."

Once you give up hope, all is lost. None of us have seen Jesus, yet we keep going church every Sunday.
Replied on Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 06:31 PM CST
Btw Jeff, you forgot to mention that the NRA and the republicans now want your guns, because once it's realized that anyone can build a bumpstock in their garage, the focus will then shift to the firearm its attached to, and that both parties now want to censor the internet, so that no one outside the establishment can ever get elected again..... The establishment is running scared right now.
Replied on Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 08:01 AM CST
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You are correct Dave, at least in the past you could somewhat depend on the Repubs to protect the 2nd amendmemt, but these days they re so worried about Dems liking them, that they were all in on banning bumostocks....they re all pathetic with the exception of a few Ted, Rand and Mike Lee types...
Replied on Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 08:14 AM CST

New Cosponsor: Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler [R-WA3]

New Cosponsor: Rep. David Valadao [R-CA21]

The bill now has 58 cosponsors (57 Republicans, 1 Democrat).

Replied on Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:50 AM CST
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New Cosponsor: Rep. John Faso [R-NY19]
Replied on Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:15 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: JUBENTINO MENDOZA
Quote: "Mr. Robles, Thank you very much for all the information!!! That is awesome of all the work you just did for all of us. The country need people who care in goverment offices. Run !!!!"

That's a nice compliment, but I am perfectly happy where I am running loads and trucks for RFG and trying to make sure we all get a fair shake out of the deal. If you need help in that aspect, feel free to give me a shout at 402-932-8942. Otherwise I will just keep hoping for the best but planning for the worst and keeping this up to date :)
Replied on Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 03:59 PM CST
Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: " New Cosponsor: Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler [R-WA3] New Cosponsor: Rep. David Valadao [R-CA21] The bill now has 58 cosponsors (57 Republicans, 1 Democrat)."

who was the Dem again?

Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 07:54 AM CST
Originally Posted by: DAVE TOLLIVER
Quote: "who was the Dem again? "

Peterson, Collin [D-MN7] (joined Sep 5, 2017)
Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 08:15 AM CST
Its nice to have all of these CoSponsors but when will it make it to the floor?
Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 09:42 AM CST
Originally Posted by: EDD MCGILL
Quote: "Its nice to have all of these CoSponsors but when will it make it to the floor?"

As of 07/18/2017 the bill was referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. From there it is assigned to a subcommittee and put on the calendar to be heard and considered.

No action will be taken on the bill until the subcommittee reviews it and determines it should be presented to the floor for consideration. At last check, the bill has still not been scheduled to be heard by any subcommitee.

You can check the calendar here:
https://transportation.house.gov/
Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 09:46 AM CST

And that is why I should have paid more attention to those Saturday morning cartoon commercials. The only ones i remember are "Conjuction junction whats your function"

LOL

Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 01:24 PM CST
Originally Posted by: EDD MCGILL
Quote: " And that is why I should have paid more attention to those Saturday morning cartoon commercials. The only ones i remember are "Conjuction junction whats your function" LOL"

I think this is the one you are thinking of and fairly accurate, too :)

https://youtu.be/FFroMQlKiag


Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 01:50 PM CST
It's interesting how many insurance companies are suddenly running for the door, just before this mandate goes into effect...If you are having insurance problems right now, it's likely that you are not going to survive this.
Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 03:56 PM CST
Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: "I think this is the one you are thinking of and fairly accurate, too :) https://youtu.be/FFroMQlKiag "

Thats the one!!! Thanks for making me laugh!!
Replied on Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 08:48 AM CST
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This is a complete mess just like oboma care, making people buy something they don't want and making highway more unsafe what a mess. Please less government and more common sense.
Replied on Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 02:41 PM CST
New Cosponsor: Rep. Thomas Garrett [R-VA5]
New Cosponsor: Rep. Brad Wenstrup [R-OH2]
Replied on Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 05:58 PM CST
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It's becoming clear, that this mandate is pushing experienced drivers out of the industry at a rapid rate. The closer we get to the December deadline, the more Brokers are posting loads over here in the forum section. And some of them are now posting rates on there loads....Most of this forum is now Brokers posting loads. I am not criticizing anyone for this, just pointing out that we are noticing a increased effort to move loads.
Replied on Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 09:02 AM CST
Mccain and Flake they both suck!! They are a very sorry excuse for Senators!! This Bill is before the House if i read this correct, need to call your Congressman not the Senators. But it wont hurt to call both!! Hope they can get this delayed and the logging laws done right such as the on - duty not driving bullshit!!!
Replied on Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 09:05 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF CARRITT
Quote: "Mccain and Flake they both suck!! They are a very sorry excuse for Senators!! This Bill is before the House if i read this correct, need to call your Congressman not the Senators. But it wont hurt to call both!! Hope they can get this delayed and the logging laws done right such as the on - duty not driving bullshit!!!"

This bill is still in committee and has not yet been presented to the House for consideration.
Replied on Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:04 PM CST
I GOT THIS ON AN E MAIL EARLIER THIS MORNING. ANYONE KNOW IF THIS IS CORRECT INFO OR NOT. I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO CALL THE NUMBER THIS MORNING.


As many of you know --- we, Truckers Solution work hard each day to FIGHT for our drivers! In recent conversations with some larger fleets we realized they aren't moving to ELD's (Electronic Logging Devices.) When we asked why, we realized because most of them already have AOBRD's (Autmatic OnBoard Recording Devices) which technically are quite different than ELD's. The main difference is that on AOBRD's a driver can "EDIT" any portion of the log -- YES you read that correctly, all components are editable.
Why is this important?The new FMSCA guideline states, "Drivers and motor carriers currently using 395.15 compliant AOBRD's are allowed to continue to use AOBRDs for an additional 2 years after Dec 18, 2017."
If you don't have an AOBRD before Dec 18, 2017 you will NOT be able to purchase or utilize these "EDITABLE" devices after this date. We have found a REPUTABLE device that can be BOTH an AOBRD or an ELD (WHEN YOU NEED IT - in 2 years!)
Truckers Solution has negotiated the following:
  • "Preferred" pricing for our members; no up-front equipment costs with monthly fees ranging from $18 per month up to $75 per month depending upon equipment choices you make
  • No payment until the mandate goes into effect. If the mandate goes live Dec 18, 2018 then you will be billed that month; if the mandate is delayed for example, until June 2018 then you pay nothing until June 2018; if the mandate is completely eliminated then you return the equipment and owe nothing
  • All devices can ACT as an AOBRD or an ELD -- you CHOOSE!
  • The system contains a driver view and an "inspection" view -- in the "inspection" view the system contains NO violation hints, color coding or "triggers" that might alert an inspector to any type of violation. In essence they have to find it just like they do today using paperlogs.
These KEY differences compelled us to partner with ELDS LLC to bring this offer to our members! ELDS was developed by Transportation professionals with the feedback from drivers and fleets -- not technology gurus with no Transportation experience! The system is user friendly and simple to install.
If you would like more information please send us an email at [email protected] or call us at 352-241-6000. We are here to serve!

Safe travels,

Vickie
Vickie Roberts, SVP of Operations, Truckers Solution
352-241-6000 ext 1004
[email protected]
Replied on Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 02:49 PM CST
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New Cosponsor: Rep. Bill Johnson [R-OH6]
Replied on Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 11:22 AM CST
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New Cosponsor: Rep. James Comer [R-KY1]
The bill now has 63 cosponsors (62 Republicans, 1 Democrat).
Replied on Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 10:49 PM CST
Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: " New Cosponsor: Rep. James Comer [R-KY1] The bill now has 63 cosponsors (62 Republicans, 1 Democrat)."

HOW MANY WOULD BE NEEDED BEFORE ANYTHING DIFFERENT WOULD EVEN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION OR A COMPRAMISE MADE?
Replied on Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 02:46 AM CST
Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "It's becoming clear, that this mandate is pushing experienced drivers out of the industry at a rapid rate. The closer we get to the December deadline, the more Brokers are posting loads over here in the forum section. And some of them are now posting rates on there loads....Most of this forum is now Brokers posting loads. I am not criticizing anyone for this, just pointing out that we are noticing a increased effort to move loads. "

That's bad why???
Replied on Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 10:02 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JOHN JACOBS
Quote: "That's bad why???"

John I don't recall saying it was bad (at least wise for us)... It means that we are more in demand in the market. Good for us truckers, if the rates would go up, which they are not. Governor Dayton suspended the H.O.S for the next 75 days here in Minnesota, on everything related to agriculture, meaning propane, diesle fuel, anhydrous, fertilizer, corn, beans, etc. He is interfering with the Free market, preventing rates from going up. Why would he do that you ask? Well the farmers are all broke, and can not afford to pay more for trucks..... The market can not give you what's not there. There in lies the real problem, that nobody at the ATA will talk about.
Replied on Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 11:09 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JOHN JACOBS
Quote: "That's bad why???"

If you own a fleet of trucks, and can't find drivers because of this mandate, then it is bad for you. And if you are a shipper that cannot find a truck because of this, it's bad for you..... And if you are a broker who cannot find a truck to move your load, you will loose that customer, so that's bad for you..... There you have it, a more short direct answer to your question. But initially I was just commenting on the more aggressive advertising we are seeing, as it relates to loads. They are obviously not moving when posted under the load section, so to get your attention they are posting them on the forum section. And those rates that used to be a closely guarded secret that nobody wanted to show? Well now now they are willing to post those. We have freight to move, but nobody to move it?
Replied on Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 07:14 AM CST
I’ve always had questions about how a government official can “exempt” carriers from the HOS rules. First off, will your insurance company cover you if you have an accident if it was proven that you were out of compliance (under normal circumstances)? You may want to talk to your Insurance agent about that? How can ANYBODY justify letting ANY placarded freight be exempt? And I would bet the farm that if there was a accident, where someone died, the cry would be even louder for ELDS. Not to mention tightening the current archaic rules.
Replied on Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 10:34 AM CST
Originally Posted by: CHRISTOPHER STIER
Quote: "HOW MANY WOULD BE NEEDED BEFORE ANYTHING DIFFERENT WOULD EVEN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION OR A COMPRAMISE MADE?"

The number of Co-sponsors associated to a bill has not been proven to be a true gauge in the success or failure of a bill making it through committee. It just means they receive regular updates on the bill when it is heard by the subcommittee. This is similar to adding someone on the CC line of an email - not required to actually DO anything, but can read it if they want to.
Replied on Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 10:18 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: LARRY KEMP
Quote: "I’ve always had questions about how a government official can “exempt” carriers from the HOS rules. First off, will your insurance company cover you if you have an accident if it was proven that you were out of compliance (under normal circumstances)? You may want to talk to your Insurance agent about that? How can ANYBODY justify letting ANY placarded freight be exempt? And I would bet the farm that if there was a accident, where someone died, the cry would be even louder for ELDS. Not to mention tightening the current archaic rules."

As I understand it, the great free market conservative Scott walker of Wisconsin, just suspended the H.O.S for the propane haulers, because its such a big crisis. Once again interfering with the free market, preventing rates from going up.
Replied on Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 05:36 AM CST
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This just proves to me that the HOS is just a but of b.s. if it is ok (and safe) to run exempt when government says it is. Then it should be at all times. We all know the true, smart business person that happens to Drive a truck will be safer without the government looking over their shoulder.
Replied on Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 09:20 AM CST
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Them 62 Republicans and 1 Democrat that are sponsoring this bill to help delay or remove the ELD need to vote this week agains the Trump nominee of the FMCSA Martinez to show that they are serious on this. In his Senate hearing this week he was quoted as saying is strongly believes in the ELD mandate for safety reasons which unfortunately the ATA has spent a lot of money in which they receive a lot from the big carriers to keep whispering in their ear that this is needed. Needed why? Because the big mega carriers want to keep trying to level the playing field or eliminate the little guy. True fact 82% of trucking companies is companies 17 trucks or less, yes 82%, so the math does not add up in this. Other than ATA is about the big guys and has all money. Being a huge Trump suppoerter I thought his business sense would come more into play and defeat this, but unfortunately in the ATA big white house visit all that was talked about was Obamacare repeal nothing about the ELD and in fact the ELD topic if you attended was not allowed to be brought up. Comes down to it is all about the big guy. He needs to have one of the same White House visits with OOIDA and NASTC to get the other side of the spectrum. But unfortunately he is busy and his staff with people like Martinez in there will not let that bird whisper in his ear. The next bad step if read some of the fine print his new tax plan has chances of hurting the trucking industry worse than helping it in certain aspects in the long run, granted there are some great pros to it but also some serious cons that can washout the good. This is all food for thought to give you all something to think about and research. Read on her often just have not posted often but many of you do make valid points and have great ideas, just need a way to implement them which is tough to do especially has our great elected officials have let the process get to far out of hand.
Replied on Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 03:26 PM CST
New Cosponsor: Rep. Scott Tipton [R-CO3]
The bill now has 64 cosponsors (63 Republicans, 1 Democrat).
Replied on Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:36 AM CST
Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: " New Cosponsor: Rep. Scott Tipton [R-CO3] The bill now has 64 cosponsors (63 Republicans, 1 Democrat)."

As I understand it, Brian Babbin has delivered a formal letter Donald Trump, asking for a executive order to delay the mandate.
Replied on Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 07:26 AM CST
Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "As I understand it, Brian Babbin has delivered a formal letter Donald Trump, asking for a executive order to delay the mandate."

I saw that too.If Trump ignores the request,he may lose a million votes,if he grants the delay,he may lose a lot of campaign $$

money versus votes
which way will he go?
Replied on Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 08:53 AM CST
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Keep dreaming... Bah. Bahahah!!!
Replied on Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 12:07 PM CST
Originally Posted by: TOMMY HUNEYCUTT
Quote: "I saw that too.If Trump ignores the request,he may lose a million votes,if he grants the delay,he may lose a lot of campaign $$ money versus votes which way will he go?"

There is a interesting article over in the news section, regarding a recent survey that was done. Only 40% of the industry has complied with president O'drama's mandate...60% have refused. And when you break it down to the 1-5 truck fleets, from 1- 100, it jumps to 93%.....It appears that we are willing to hold our ground, and bring it all down. Not since jimmy Hoffa, has this industry been so united. When you put a man in a position where he has nothing to loose, look out. Even if trump doesn't get rid of the Obama mandate, the ATA is going to loose its voice.... Bahhahaha.
Replied on Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 04:58 PM CST
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Isn’t this supposed to be enacted to make the highways Safer for everyone ?
Put ELD’s in EVERY vehicle that’s on the road. Cars, trucks & motorcycles.
If you want to put governors in a truck do it to ALL VEHICLES.
Lengthen CDL- A training to a 6 month minimum, NOT 4 weeks
Replied on Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 02:08 PM CST
H.R. 3282: ELD Extension Act of 2017
New Cosponsor: Rep. Susan Brooks [R-IN5]
The bill now has 65 cosponsors (64 Republicans, 1 Democrat)
Replied on Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:52 AM CST
New Cosponsor: Rep. John Curtis [R-UT3]
New Cosponsor: Rep. Austin Scott [R-GA8]
The bill now has 67 cosponsors (66 Republicans, 1 Democrat).
Replied on Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 05:06 PM CST
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Has anyone heard more about the Ag haulers 90 day extension , who will all be included we haul feeds for chickens for Perdue , Tyson and Mountaire will feeds like corn , soy beans , soy bean meal and wheat qualify ? I've only heard about the cattle and pig haulers so far but they say it's going to be more wide spread ,,are they waiting til the 11th hour to fill people in ?
Replied on Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 06:28 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: MEL ROBLES
Quote: " New Cosponsor: Rep. John Curtis [R-UT3] New Cosponsor: Rep. Austin Scott [R-GA8] The bill now has 67 cosponsors (66 Republicans, 1 Democrat)."

The AG of Indiana is requesting a delay.. stating that nobody knows exactly what ELD is compliant and which ones are not.. if one person wants an exemption.. then all should get an exemption...or nobody get one.. the government wants this... soooo lets give it to them..and let them answer the phones from the public looking for their freight and just why is that freight now 4 bucks a mile..
Replied on Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 08:49 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: JEFF PEARSON
Quote: "The AG of Indiana is requesting a delay.. stating that nobody knows exactly what ELD is compliant and which ones are not.. if one person wants an exemption.. then all should get an exemption...or nobody get one.. the government wants this... soooo lets give it to them..and let them answer the phones from the public looking for their freight and just why is that freight now 4 bucks a mile.."

They speak out of both sides of their mouth. They say trucking is a one size fits all industry, but then they hand out all of these exemptions? Where would rates be on propane and other commodities, if there were no exemptions? Oh that's right, the politicians don't want to be on the 6:00 pm news, explaining to the public, why they need to take a loan out, to heat their house, or how they were made a fool of by the ATA.
Replied on Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 07:29 AM CST
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I strongly agree with a majority of what has been said in this thread. The one point that has been a focus for me and not talked about much is our accessorial charges that need to be enforced to the highest degree. Especially when ELD comes into play, time will be our most valuable asset, with the exception to the professional Driver behind the wheel. I cannot stand when large mills that have lack luster scheduling or a bs coordinator that takes advantage of the trucker by using our hoppers for storage (waiting in line to dump). Or the shipper that sells 15 loads that day and knows they can only get out 12. I know I?ve been in line to dump, called my Customer and told them 2hr detention was starting and I have 5 trucks in front of me. Customer says yes, get me tickets with your times and let me know when your empty I?ll get you some money. Eight hours later I?m empty, submit paperwork for detention and I?m on my way. 30 days later I call my Customer asking where my detention pay is, they say I?m sorry we have been trying to get it but it hasn?t been authorized. Wtf? What is so complex about two time stamps on a ticket. They truly have no remorse about their product sitting in line on their property on your trailer and it?s bs. I know I?m not the only one this happens to. Therefore, I?m collaborating with a few people in the industry on a truckers alliance of accessorial charges to get what we all deserve. I?d like any sort of input that you are willing to offer. We do have a strategy in place and are just looking for any bits of info that can help us all. Remember, wether the ELD gets enforced or not, there will still be detention and load cancels that we the truckers need to capture compensation for. Our time is not free. Thank you and have a great day!
Replied on Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 08:12 AM CST
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If EVERYBODY just shut their truck off on the 17th and refused to run, the problem would be solved...but sadly tge industry is full of steering wheel holders and deisel dummys...this is the industries fault and now they re hoping that tge fox is going to investigate who broke into the hen house....govt ISNT going to fix the problem that govt started!!!!
Replied on Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 02:50 PM CST
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Well, here it is December 1st, and it appears that trump has not responded to Brian Babbin's request, for a executive intervention. Perhaps trump wants to see the supply chain shut down, so that he can use it to beat the democrats over the head, and use this example to demonstrate the need for regulatory reform? Does trump intend to turn this into his bulldozer? Or has he sold out to the global elite?
Replied on Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 04:11 PM CST
Right on !!! Buddy I?m with you
Replied on Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 09:42 PM CST
Given how trump feels about Obama, something just doesn't fit. Here is the perfect opertunity to reverse a Obama policy, he has a congressman and a attorney general begging him to intervene, not to mention all of us truckers, and he does nothing? Here is a chance to score an easy victory, and he does not take advantage of the situation? There has to be a reason.
Replied on Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 03:25 PM CST
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my guessiw dave that the ATA has filled his head full of shit, i guess he ll find out the hardway when the economy tanks and he ll be a one and done president...maybe he ll writea book like crooked hillarys he can call his....WTF Happened!!!
Replied on Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:08 PM CST
New Cosponsor: Rep. David “Dave” Brat [R-VA7]
The bill now has 68 cosponsors (67 Republicans, 1 Democrat).
Replied on Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 02:39 PM CST
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What gets me is the entitlement mentality that's out there. Many of us told you that we would quit if this became law, and you did not listen to us.....Now you guys are flipping out and throwing a temper tantrum when your drivers quit. I should not be surprised, since the ATA is run by a bunch of big government liberals, entitlement is a core value.
Replied on Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:22 PM CST
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Thank you Mr Robles, for all of your hard work, many of us are very grateful that you have donated so much time to this topic...... Sadly it appears that we have started the path of no return.....It seems that many of the carriers and brokers did not think enough of us, to stand up for us, rather they chose to throw us under the bus...... Now they must pay the price. I know several people that chose to leave the industry recently, and everyone of them reported the same reaction from the broker, or Carrier.... A guilt trip followed up with a angery speach, "what am I supposed to do", how would you like it if I would have shut my doors, and turned my back on you"...... They must be getting this script from the ATA.........Well to you folks using that script, it's not about you, it's about us!...And you did turn your back on us, by allowing this bullshit mandate to go through.......... So we don't owe you a damn thing! You allowed your greed to get in the way, all you heard was "Rates will go up now".....Well for rates to go up, drivers have to quit.
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 06:38 AM CST
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well put dave!!! drivers have to quit or shut down plain and simple...kings express in st cloud this past friday, elogs along with poor mangt led to their demise...maybe when enough small carriers go under and the somalis and illegals have killed enough people and milk is 10 bucks and gallon and hamburger is 15 a lb we ll be able to get things done, until then i plan on using from now til april 1st to "phase in" my elog, maybe by then the economy will be in the shitter, its my last hope and gamble....
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 09:54 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF GLINES
Quote: "well put dave!!! drivers have to quit or shut down plain and simple...kings express in st cloud this past friday, elogs along with poor mangt led to their demise...maybe when enough small carriers go under and the somalis and illegals have killed enough people and milk is 10 bucks and gallon and hamburger is 15 a lb we ll be able to get things done, until then i plan on using from now til april 1st to "phase in" my elog, maybe by then the economy will be in the shitter, its my last hope and gamble...."

Jeff poor management has been the problem all along. A drivers pay is based on 11 hours of driving, instead of eight..... Well now many drivers can only drive eight, becuase of this E-log nonsense....... And these idiots think that there drivers should stick around and loose money, when they weren't making any to start with?..... And they are actually stupid enough to think that the government will come to the rescue, and force the shippers to speed stuff up? The ATA and the teamsters both opposed deregulation, but were out lobbied by the shippers, becuase the shippers are the loudest voice in the room, with the deepest pockets!....... It seems that everyone forgot who the employer is, and who the employee is?....... In true liberal fashion, the ATA has stuff backwards as to who works for who! Liberalism is a mental disorder........ The republicans got their ass kicked last night, with Roy moor....... I wonder how many truck drivers voted against him, to get even with Trump, for not delaying the ELD mandate? It seems operation pay back is going on.
Replied on Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 06:30 AM CST
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well after listening to trump yesterday talking about this HUGE, GREAT tax cut we re about to get crammed up our anal cavities, i know realize that trump has gone from our last hope at freedom to the bumbling idiot lame stream media makes him out to be....its no wonder he didnt stop the mandate, he probably thinks its gonna be a GREAT thing too...its truely amazing how many retards think trump and tye republicans are going to save us from their FRIENDS from across the aisle...
Replied on Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:31 AM CST
Received update from FMSCA by email yesterday afternoon that the 90 day waiver has been granted. Definition of agricultural commodities is another story. Check Composite Commodity list (of administrative ruling No. 119). Certain products are exempt if used as a livestock or poultry feed or feed ingredient and transported to a business engaged in the sale to agricultural procedures of goods used in agricultural production." If you use the exemption to not use an ELD, you must print off the waiver and it has to be carried with you.
Replied on Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 04:20 PM CST
H.R. 3282: ELD Extension Act of 2017
New Cosponsor: Rep. Jack Bergman [R-MI1]

On December 7, the Transportation Commitee did meet regarding Emerging Technology in the trucking industry, but its focus was on autonomous driving:

https://transportation.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2017-12-07_-_highways_background_memo.pdf

Representative Babin, who introduced the bill, posted the following video to his YouTube channel requesting Trump issue an Executive Order to delay the ELD Mandate for 90 days:

https://youtu.be/n3bQi-vA_CI

Trump's current travel agenda shows he has been speaking at Quantico and then will be travelling to Camp David, followed by Christmas at his golf resort in Florida. There is no indication he has acknowledged or intends to override the ELD mandate at this time.

Thank you for allowing me to follow the events leading up to the ELD Mandate implimentation and letting me post this information. There are strong feelings on both sides of this issue and several others.

I will encourage everyone to continue to be involved in governmental processes and urge you to continue to reach out to your Representatives and Senators. They are your elected officials, put in place to represent you and your values. Your votes put them in office and your lack of votes can take them out of office.
Replied on Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:32 AM CST
a bunch of dipshits sitting around getting paid to talk about robot truck drivers and another dipshit at his private golf course, and people are having a hard time figuring out why we the people are getting screwed....pathetic
Replied on Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 09:17 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF GLINES
Quote: "a bunch of dipshits sitting around getting paid to talk about robot truck drivers and another dipshit at his private golf course, and people are having a hard time figuring out why we the people are getting screwed....pathetic"

This may be the dumbest generation of American's yet.....No one will stand up for themselves and fight anymore....... I remember back in the early eighties, watching the news and seeing a farmer in North Dakota, crash his tractor into the bank, becuase they were foreclosing on him. Look at the the truckers of the 60's and 70's, they would at least stand up for themselves as business owners. Today they just roll over, and expect everyone to feel sorry for them.....We let other countries just walk right in here, and take over......We let other nations dictate our immigration policies, and foreign policy........What will the millenials do, when they have 500 angry Chinese doing a bayonet charge on them?
Replied on Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:35 PM CST
They won't see it coming. They'll be looking at spacebook on their cell phones.
Replied on Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:38 PM CST
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One thing to remember Dave about the millenials, of which I am one- I do agree that the majority of my generation is pretty helpless and unambitious, but very few if any of my generation has been controlling the direction of this country or society for the past 20-30 years, it has been yours and the one before.
Replied on Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 09:46 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: JOSH BUSTER
Quote: "One thing to remember Dave about the millenials, of which I am one- I do agree that the majority of my generation is pretty helpless and unambitious, but very few if any of my generation has been controlling the direction of this country or society for the past 20-30 years, it has been yours and the one before."

That would be the baby boomers. Spoiled and protected by the greatest generation. Made dependent on social programs by the likes of FDR.
Replied on Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 09:57 PM CST
Originally Posted by: DEAN HUGHSON
Quote: "That would be the baby boomers. Spoiled and protected by the greatest generation. Made dependent on social programs by the likes of FDR."

Amen Dean.
Replied on Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 11:03 PM CST
For the most part, I think most us agree that this country is going to hell, and has been for a while, and it just keeps getting worse. Every one is pissed at trump right now, when they should be looking in the mirror. This was our fight, not his. When Monday comes, the rates will be the same as last week, and slowly but surely disappointment will turn to rage.
Replied on Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 01:32 PM CST
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it doesn't have to turn to rage dave. lets face it, truckers are not widely known for their intelligence. My feeling on this whole ELD stuff is while I absoulutely despise the govt telling me I have to put this device in my truck,(i feel that our founding fathers would have dragged most of our current politicians into the street and publicly executed them) I think we small truckers fell for it again and are attacking the "straw man" here, the elog changes nothing for us if you simplify it, it changes absolutely nothing other than we can no longer successfully lie. The elog makes us adhere to the current HOS rules. Uniting the trucking industry today is like herding cats, cannot be done. Our fight should be either against the HOS rules or facilites that hold us hostage.

Before we except the load we have demurrage and other accesorials agreed upon before we hit the key. I think there will be lots of opportunities for small flexible guys like me in the short term to capatalize on the elogs and get paid great rates for the near future. However, like everything it will settle down and people will adjust and will go right back to what it is now.
Replied on Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:52 AM CST
New Cosponsor: Rep. Ron Estes [R-KS4]
New Cosponsor: Rep. Claudia Tenney [R-NY22]
The bill now has 71 cosponsors (70 Republicans, 1 Democrat)