hauling 97,000 lbs in mn

I'm currently running 6 axles and for what I'm hauling in and out of the cities for I can't pencil it out. I'm going back to 5 axle. a lot of bs and permits.

down here in texas we never had a problem running 110 to 120 on 5 axles.... as far as i know the only time it was illegal is when we got caught....

the last new tri axle timpte I seen for sale was closer to $55000. but maybe you are getting the farmer discount. figure out the fuel mileage, payment difference, license/permit costs and tell me how much more you're making.

1065 bushel in and 24 ton out is roughly $1172. 885 bushel in and 26.5 tons out is roughly $1105. on 500 miles the difference is .14 cents a mile. paying for the permits extra license extra trailer payment and adding the price of a pusher into all that isn't worth 14 cents a mile. and no I'm not trying to argue with anybody but the numbers don't lie. if Minnesota would allow the weights both ways then I agree its worth hauling more. not the way its setup now

I'm thinking when or if mn changes its rules so that grain isnt the only thing you can carry to 97,000 then il get the proper trailer until then i think its probably not worth it the not being able to use I 94, and I 35 would make more headaches and mean less time at home and more time getting there... Good advice

even if they pass it so everything can be hauled heavier I don't see them letting you be on the interstate. that's the way iowa is set-up

Consider the gains of a very efficient 5 axle set up. Wide single tires will save almost 100 lbs per wheel position, 800 lbs tractor and trailer and a little fuel savings. A 6x2 axle setup can take off 500 lbs and save fuel. I know because I have done it. Picked up almost 1/2 mpg from the 6x2. Liftable axles help too. This stuff may not work for everyone and the 6x2 isn't cheap. I have learned some tricks and it works well for me with a walking floor.

You guys are beating yourselves down in your own game by going heavier and I by no means saying what your doing is wrong, each truck or company needs to make the best decision for their ownself, however On the short term the concept looks like a great idea as you think your per mile amounts will increase, but on the long run aggregate of the concept you are depleting potential available loads and thus increasing the supply of trucks available while decreasing the demand of loads to haul. For instance if MN moves 25,000,000 tons of product via truck in a year, on the standard 80,000 pounds at an average of 26 ton per load, that equates out to a total of 961,538.46 loads to move, if all the trucks go to 97,000 pounds and haul on average 32 ton per load that equates to 781,250 loads to move. Supply and demand is what sets the rates, less trucks more loads equals higher rates, more trucks less loads equals lower rates, at the heavier weight, you now have 180,288 less loads available for the trucks to compete on which in turn will push rates down, the other portion that will push rates down is the fact that at 32 ton your per mile can increase thus needing less per ton to make your haul work for a per mile basis. Just my opinion on one of the problems with current rates. The shippers want trucks to haul more as they can keep rates at a lower amount, thus increasing their profits, trucks should want the opposite, the trucks need to learn to create the demand rather than increase the supply.

I agree ....we are already seeing that. Now alot of the places are wanting us to haul 88000 and still do it for $2/loaded mile.

I agree with you to an extent my only return fire is most of the time you will have to take a longer route to avoid the interstate to "legally" be able to haul 97k and we all know going to the cities avoiding the interstate is pretty tough. My other return fire is fuel mileage. One should be able to pull a minimum of 6 mpg to as high as 8 mpg pulling a tandem hopper where as pulling a triple you will be very lucky to get 6 for an overall avg. I have both setups so im speaking from personal experience on that, the overall cost to own a tandem is much more advantageous in MN, IMO. Especially if you are hauling legally and ever hauling fertilizer. No permits required for pulling a tandem at 80k

We run wood in wi at 98000, 6 axles, no interstate, when this law went through several years ago our prices on the wood took a shit along with the Trucking rates, I would think you would be looking at the same outcome