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Is Texas Really As Under Serviced As The Board Shows For Hoppers?

Apr 05, 2018 at 11:49 PM CST
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We just got involved in a company in Houston area thats general freight but are thinking of sending a bunch of our hopper bottoms down to the power units.IS it as busy as the baor dindicates all the time or is there alot of Ghost loads?

How much can you license a truck for weight with a tri axle hoppe rin Texas/ NEbraka / Oklahoma? We are used to nrothern weights that with our normal set up allow 102,500 if we stay on secondary highways and some stretches of interstate.
Replied on Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 07:20 AM CST
Um ...... 95k with 7 axles in Nebraska, the other three your skewed
Replied on Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 07:46 AM CST
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Texas is 80k unless you have an overload permit then it’s 84k and no interstate roads. Plenty of hoppers in Texas but the rates aren’t there IMO.
Replied on Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:11 PM CST
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hell yes come on down and clean up all this cheap freight thats posted on the board..... theres the one guy that will let you haul tyler to mary neal for 28 per ton..... just be ready to dead head 2 to 300 miles for a decent load back , unless your good with 100 mile dead head and then a buck per mile.

then you can suck up some of that high dollar gavilon freight...nuff said , right ?

lets not forget the other guys that will keep you loaded like hansen mueller , you can load oats everyday out of houston to fort worth for around 400 bucksoh wait thats aledo 300 miles.....

then theres the guy that will load you with gravel if you have an end dump..gravy haul it is..... 200 miles for i think it was 13 per ton last time i checked

come on man come on down...which stuff you gonna haul first..its all here waitin and can all be yours

oh hell i almost forgot all the cream of the crop frac sand that pays 1.50 or a little better....your trucks do have inverters , refrigerators and mocrowaves ...right ?
Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:06 AM CST
That is FUNNEY,,, you Canadians deadhead for more $ per mile than most Texas freight pays for loaded mile,, but come on down and see what below break even feels like.
Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:29 AM CST
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Everyone here has nailed it. Too many trucks, too many drivers without license (bc they don' have to have a CDL), too many brokers that have been able to get cheap trucks to haul freight for less than cheap. SO YES, come on down and take advantage of losing everything you have worked for. BC you can sit in bumper to bumper traffic all day long, then long lines to load n unload will give you plenty if time to think.
Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 11:25 AM CST

There is a whole new species of bottom feeders in the Texas Hopper Business.
You think it is cheap now wait a bit and watch the rates plumit.
Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 12:25 PM CST
So same shit different day basically, Lots of steers and (well you know) so lots of BS, Ill make sure we all bring our rubber boots. The world is the same everywhere. But again the same question comes to mind, "What are you doing to fix it?". In our neck of the woods some of us carriers got took advantage of this ELD mandate that removed the pretenders and the part time commodity carriers. We netoworked got together and started knocing on doors. Now a few 10-25 power units companies as a group have more pull and the brokers quickly lose their priority sequence wiht the shippers. Its not that hard to get the broker sout of the way. Remember they dont own a thing and have no investment risk. Therefore they have no way to bail out the customer when S hits the fan and there is a dairy out of feed. The big shippers ustilize the boker sbecause they feel anyone with under 10 trucks is a nucince. Shipping Commodities requires lots of steel and horse power. So if your small they think its to many moving parts to deal with, they rather go to the scumbags and let them make their nut to deal with the BS. But now if 10 smaller carriers network together as a group you have 20 trucks and now your somebody and the shippers will giv eyou a better rate because they know they may get serviced now in a pinch and all the time.

I know you can't get truckers to work together 99% of the time because everyone wants to cut the throat of the next person even though you cant handle everything on your own. But start workign together for once and you mgiht see a difference.

Kind of Sorry I asked, But theres my two sense good luck to you all.
Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 12:31 PM CST
Originally Posted by: TROY JEFFERS
Quote: "Um ...... 95k with 7 axles in Nebraska, the other three your skewed "

Thanks, so once again every state s different even though we have a "federal mandate" . Guess TImpte will make some more money
Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 12:36 PM CST
Originally Posted by: SCOTT BARRAZA
Quote: "Texas is 80k unless you have an overload permit then it’s 84k and no interstate roads. Plenty of hoppers in Texas but the rates aren’t there IMO. "

Thanks for the head sup, they do seem a bit on the soft side. Long haul seems a bit better, but looks like the local stuf is just like up North. The new laws basically shut down the small fleets (ma&pops / parttime farmers) so they are cutting each others throats on the local to stay alive sicne they dont want to bother with the interstate laws and regs. It will come with time.
Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 12:45 PM CST
Originally Posted by: SCOTT P
Quote: "Thanks, so once again every state s different even though we have a "federal mandate" . Guess TImpte will make some more money"

Iowa, Nebraska,South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming,Utah,Washington, Oregon is where you want to run with 7 axles, or a triple 6 then Kansas, Colorado you can run 96k or something with 5 axles, and some of those states require a permit that’s not much but Colorado is like 500 bucks every 6 months and Hwy only Iowa is Hwy only to

Replied on Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 04:33 PM CST
Originally Posted by: SCOTT P
Quote: "Thanks for the head sup, they do seem a bit on the soft side. Long haul seems a bit better, but looks like the local stuf is just like up North. The new laws basically shut down the small fleets (ma&pops / parttime farmers) so they are cutting each others throats on the local to stay alive sicne they dont want to bother with the interstate laws and regs. It will come with time."

Been this way for as long as I can remember. Texas has different intrastate hos than interstate guys have. Come dec 2019 Texas intrastate will have the same hos as current but will mirror the feds for ELD requirements. Don’t think the rates will change much after that either.