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Jun 05, 2020 at 06:04 PM CST
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it looks like we got the ex oil field sand haulers precise transport and kreuger logistics running in north dakota hauling grain and cutting rates to take all the loads and running overloaded and just getting in the way cause they dont now what there doing i heard it first hand there cutting rates something needs to be done what are you shippers going to do when there back in the sand traps and you ticked off the normal grain haulers some people have already parked there trucks cause theres nothing to haul i can run out of state but i shouldnt have to grain has never been a bank breaker to begin with but i did pretty well
Replied on Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 09:53 AM CST
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Happens every time the oil field slows down. Oil prices are creeping up again so they should go away again. If you know they are hauling heavy, make a call and turn them in.
Replied on Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 09:53 AM CST
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It’s been this way since 1980, in the last 40 years I haven’t seen anyone yet that could build a company, and sell it for a reasonable price, 99% either file bankruptcy or force the business onto their kids, and hope they don’t default.
Replied on Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 12:11 PM CST
Trucks down here are running a out 400 bucks a day. I've been parked
Replied on Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 12:57 PM CST
Same thing is happening in Colorado .
Replied on Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 12:59 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: JAY HUSMAN
Quote: "Trucks down here are running a out 400 bucks a day. I've been parked"

Making 400 for the day or 400 a load how many miles
Replied on Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 07:47 AM CST
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Corn to ethanol plant 50 mile rounds. 9 cents a bushel. 5 aday
Replied on Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 12:04 PM CST

same evrywhere,welcome to trucking.

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:25 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: JAY HUSMAN
Quote: "Corn to ethanol plant 50 mile rounds. 9 cents a bushel. 5 aday"

If you haul a 1000 bu. Thats 1.8 a mile all miles .be careful that Jimmy guy is coming to steal your work.
Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:42 AM CST
Originally Posted by: ED MCCONNELL
Quote: "Happens every time the oil field slows down. Oil prices are creeping up again so they should go away again. If you know they are hauling heavy, make a call and turn them in."

this is why i dont hire them, they have no respect for the road weights and totally screw up my contract amounts, the last one was such a disaster the carrier didnt even charge me for the load it was so embarassing.

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 01:11 PM CST
Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "It’s been this way since 1980, in the last 40 years I haven’t seen anyone yet that could build a company, and sell it for a reasonable price, 99% either file bankruptcy or force the business onto their kids, and hope they don’t default. "

Depends on who you get to take over. Not an easy job to make a company go.
Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 01:12 PM CST
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Hello, owner of Krueger logistics, well the oilfield has slowed down we have always hauled grain, actually hauled grain years before we ever went to the oilfield. We hauled grain last year also, we also have gravel trucks running. Now about the rate thing, we haven't cut rates, the rates really couldn't be cut anymore. Now the hauling heavy thing I can assure you all our trucks are running legal weights, actually most of them are running under weight. If you would like I can send you my number and we can discuss this? Making claims like this isn't a great idea on the Internet.

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 01:12 PM CST

Yup! We can't and won't run for these rates, we have our regulars we still service and pull loads for others who pay fair. But these rates will drive you into bankruptcy, you can't run your wheels off and expect to make a living on insulting rates, break downs and tow bills will kill you.

I saw a sand hauler load his hopper from front to back, loaded so high he couldn't close the tarps.... The huge mounds of grain in the pullouts are astounding, simply because they don't know how to load from guages.

At a pull out in Alberta one fella came to me and asked if I had room for 2 ton, he wanted to take 2 ton from him (essentially the farmer) and put it on my load (giving my farmer extra money and maybe contaminating his load, who knows).

It's crazy!

I'm sure the regular grain haulers will remember all this and may choose to not haul from those brokers who took advantage of the truck flood.

It's true.... We left the oil patch a few years ago at the last down turn, enough was enough. We've never gone back. But I have never seen grain hauling hit this bad.

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 05:19 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: JUSTIN KRUEGER
Quote: "Hello, owner of Krueger logistics, well the oilfield has slowed down we have always hauled grain, actually hauled grain years before we ever went to the oilfield. We hauled grain last year also, we also have gravel trucks running. Now about the rate thing, we haven't cut rates, the rates really couldn't be cut anymore. Now the hauling heavy thing I can assure you all our trucks are running legal weights, actually most of them are running under weight. If you would like I can send you my number and we can discuss this? Making claims like this isn't a great idea on the Internet."

We're hauling out of the same yards as you guys the overruns on the ground in Pingree the windrow trailers out of Sikeston if you guys hauled grain before you better go back to school
Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 07:41 AM CST

I could make so many remarks about your school comment. Lol, I'll hold my tongue on this one though.

Good luck to you. You got my phone number if you need it.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 08:02 AM CST
The ones that haul 1000 bushels have extra axle. Light bridge they have an extra 12 miles. 1.75 hours for 90 bucks is not good. You cant haul by the mile on that short of run.
Replied on Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:28 PM CST

The 2 mentioned aren’t the only oilfield companies doing this

the drivers Came up here because they couldn’t hold a job where they came from

just look at the news how infested Nd is now with drugs

when the oilfield left the first time they left the scum they are still here sucking the food pantry dry draining the social programs that are for people who actually need them

Replied on Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30 PM CST
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Went by Alexander yesterday and it appears that maybe the oilfield should clean up the trash within 40 miles of there. Or maybe I am wrong with the pails pee bottles and fast food garbage. Maybe that was the locals that did all of that.

Driving in western Nd has its challenges Oil water and gravel haulers should. From the start should have been paid by the hour not by the load. The gravel roads are all beat up from the speed to get the extra load.

Stop signs don’t exist to the oilfield

the 2 mentioned are guilty of all the above along with all in trucking.

In 1994 there were 113 registered sex offenders in the state now over 650 how many are not registered. You can’t not hire that scum because of their sexual preference

the law enforcement in the surrounding are constantly picking up the drug transportation so there still has to be a demand. Drug testing should be on a weekly basis

amazing how many out of state plates are still around I assume employers do know that vehicles and drivers license must be transferred to Nd in a given time period

Replied on Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 07:06 AM CST
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So if the grain was to dry up would all of you expert grain haulers just sit at home and not work? Can’t do that forever so sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Don’t be mad at the truck driver for cutting rates instead ask the broker you have apparently have such a great relationship with.
Replied on Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:14 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: SCOTT BULACH
Quote: "So if the grain was to dry up would all of you expert grain haulers just sit at home and not work? Can’t do that forever so sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Don’t be mad at the truck driver for cutting rates instead ask the broker you have apparently have such a great relationship with."

At a certain point it becomes more economical to sit at home than to work. Hauling of 1.40/mi is will not work for a comercial hauler.
Replied on Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 04:35 PM CST
Originally Posted by: ED MCCONNELL
Quote: "At a certain point it becomes more economical to sit at home than to work. Hauling of 1.40/mi is will not work for a comercial hauler."

Guess I should have read that last sentance before I hit submit!