SWIFT/JB HUNT

Oct 24, 2015 at 11:11 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. There have been sitings of these companies pulling hoppers and end dumps in the south,midwest,and east coast. Was really surprised about swift.

Replied on Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 05:47 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Saw a Werner day cab pulling a hopper in south Arkansas earlier this year. JB Hunt has been hauling feed and live chickens for Tyson for some time now. From what I've been told from Tyson employees it's not working out too well

Replied on Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 04:00 PM CST + 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The big boys help the big boys, that is how it works. If you don't think that JB, Swift, Werner will come running when their contract customers explain to them that they need them to haul hopper as well as their refeer, and dry freight, you are sorely mistaken. With the death of so many independents during this downturn, and those of us that remain are screaming about the sorry rates. The big boys called in the calvary to make sure that they are covered during this time. We all know that the Mega-Carriers have no desire to try and make it in the hopper arena. Most of their drivers would get lost on these back roads, and they will end up turning hoppers over left and right, but when your biggest drop and hook customers start calling in favors, you are going to accomadate. Funny how the Mega-Carriers can work together but the Independents can not. We are so worried about the other guy stealing our precious freight that most of never even thought about calling one another to help out on a bigger gig. When I worked for the Mega's it was not uncommon for us to haul each others loads, even drop them at each others drop yards. That is why they will continue to remain big and the rest of us remain small and hope to just get the crumbs that fall off of their table.

Replied on Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 04:00 PM CST

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The big boys help the big boys, that is how it works. If you don't think that JB, Swift, Werner will come running when their contract customers explain to them that they need them to haul hopper as well as their refeer, and dry freight, you are sorely mistaken. With the death of so many independents during this downturn, and those of us that remain are screaming about the sorry rates. The big boys called in the calvary to make sure that they are covered during this time. We all know that the Mega-Carriers have no desire to try and make it in the hopper arena. Most of their drivers would get lost on these back roads, and they will end up turning hoppers over left and right, but when your biggest drop and hook customers start calling in favors, you are going to accomadate.

Funny how the Mega-Carriers can work together but the Independents can not. We are so worried about the other guy stealing our precious freight that most of never even thought about calling one another to help out on a bigger gig. When I worked for the Mega's it was not uncommon for us to haul each others loads, even drop them at each others drop yards. That is why they will continue to remain big and the rest of us remain small and hope to just get the crumbs that fall off of their table.

Replied on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 08:33 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "The big boys help the big boys, that is how it works. If you don't think that JB, Swift, Werner will come running when their contract customers explain to them that they need them to haul hopper as well as their refeer, and dry freight, you are sorely mistaken. With the death of so many independents during this downturn, and those of us that remain are screaming about the sorry rates. The big boys called in the calvary to make sure that they are covered during this time. We all know that the Mega-Carriers have no desire to try and make it in the hopper arena. Most of their drivers would get lost on these back roads, and they will end up turning hoppers over left and right, but when your biggest drop and hook customers start calling in favors, you are going to accomadate. Funny how the Mega-Carriers can work together but the Independents can not. We are so worried about the other guy stealing our precious freight that most of never even thought about calling one another to help out on a bigger gig. When I worked for the Mega's it was not uncommon for us to haul each others loads, even drop them at each others drop yards. That is why they will continue to remain big and the rest of us remain small and hope to just get the crumbs that fall off of their table." So true about the Mega carriers jumping to please their bread and butter accounts. Don't fool yourself because the big boys don't always help the big boys. They can't afford to loose their fortune 500 shippers to another carrier.

Replied on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 08:33 AM CST

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Quote: "The big boys help the big boys, that is how it works. If you don't think that JB, Swift, Werner will come running when their contract customers explain to them that they need them to haul hopper as well as their refeer, and dry freight, you are sorely mistaken. With the death of so many independents during this downturn, and those of us that remain are screaming about the sorry rates. The big boys called in the calvary to make sure that they are covered during this time. We all know that the Mega-Carriers have no desire to try and make it in the hopper arena. Most of their drivers would get lost on these back roads, and they will end up turning hoppers over left and right, but when your biggest drop and hook customers start calling in favors, you are going to accomadate. Funny how the Mega-Carriers can work together but the Independents can not. We are so worried about the other guy stealing our precious freight that most of never even thought about calling one another to help out on a bigger gig. When I worked for the Mega's it was not uncommon for us to haul each others loads, even drop them at each others drop yards. That is why they will continue to remain big and the rest of us remain small and hope to just get the crumbs that fall off of their table."

So true about the Mega carriers jumping to please their bread and butter accounts. Don't fool yourself because the big boys don't always help the big boys. They can't afford to loose their fortune 500 shippers to another carrier.

Replied on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 09:51 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. No surpise. UPS bought Coyote and they cut my rates in half. $3.00 per mile went to $1.50 and trucks are pulling it. If I had done that, the drivers would have cussed me out and hung up the phone, but for some reason Coyote gets it moved. Of course, don't leave TQL out of that cut rate crap either and yet they get trucks to haul it.

Replied on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:18 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. See JB Hunt pulling end dumps on NJ Turnpike often

Replied on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 02:03 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "No surpise. UPS bought Coyote and they cut my rates in half. $3.00 per mile went to $1.50 and trucks are pulling it. If I had done that, the drivers would have cussed me out and hung up the phone, but for some reason Coyote gets it moved. Of course, don't leave TQL out of that cut rate crap either and yet they get trucks to haul it." I don't see how they can get carriers either. I refuse to pull cut-rate crap. I'd rather sit and watch the truck grow rust than pull for nothing. I've noticed at least 2 of the bottom feeding brokers looking for trucks on this forum. I hope they don't find any.

Replied on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 02:03 PM CST

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Quote: "No surpise. UPS bought Coyote and they cut my rates in half. $3.00 per mile went to $1.50 and trucks are pulling it. If I had done that, the drivers would have cussed me out and hung up the phone, but for some reason Coyote gets it moved. Of course, don't leave TQL out of that cut rate crap either and yet they get trucks to haul it."

I don't see how they can get carriers either. I refuse to pull cut-rate crap. I'd rather sit and watch the truck grow rust than pull for nothing.

I've noticed at least 2 of the bottom feeding brokers looking for trucks on this forum. I hope they don't find any.

Replied on Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 07:52 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Serious question to whoever was handling some of the business that is now being done by the mega carriers. Were you ever approached by the customer about their needs? I understand Alfred's explaination. Are you unable or unwilling to meet the need? I'm not being critical, just interested in where things are going. I don't see a threat of the mega carriers in my niche' but I do have customers that have their own trucks. Some know what they are doing and some don't. For my own good I need to keep them satisfied with my service to prevent them from expanding their fleets.

Replied on Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 07:52 AM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Serious question to whoever was handling some of the business that is now being done by the mega carriers. Were you ever approached by the customer about their needs? I understand Alfred's explaination. Are you unable or unwilling to meet the need? I'm not being critical, just interested in where things are going.

I don't see a threat of the mega carriers in my niche' but I do have customers that have their own trucks. Some know what they are doing and some don't. For my own good I need to keep them satisfied with my service to prevent them from expanding their fleets.

Replied on Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 08:12 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Serious question to whoever was handling some of the business that is now being done by the mega carriers. Were you ever approached by the customer about their needs? I understand Alfred's explaination. Are you unable or unwilling to meet the need? I'm not being critical, just interested in where things are going. I don't see a threat of the mega carriers in my niche' but I do have customers that have their own trucks. Some know what they are doing and some don't. For my own good I need to keep them satisfied with my service to prevent them from expanding their fleets." Bigger carriers can't find enough qualified and experienced drivers with X endorsements so we stay busy

Replied on Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 08:12 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Serious question to whoever was handling some of the business that is now being done by the mega carriers. Were you ever approached by the customer about their needs? I understand Alfred's explaination. Are you unable or unwilling to meet the need? I'm not being critical, just interested in where things are going. I don't see a threat of the mega carriers in my niche' but I do have customers that have their own trucks. Some know what they are doing and some don't. For my own good I need to keep them satisfied with my service to prevent them from expanding their fleets."

Bigger carriers can't find enough qualified and experienced drivers with X endorsements so we stay busy

Replied on Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 06:53 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I don't see how they can get carriers either. I refuse to pull cut-rate crap. I'd rather sit and watch the truck grow rust than pull for nothing. I've noticed at least 2 of the bottom feeding brokers looking for trucks on this forum. I hope they don't find any." Who were the bottom feeder brokers?

Replied on Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 07:32 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Who were the bottom feeder brokers?" Well the first one is Totally Quirky Loco's.