How many more rules ???

Jan 17, 2016 at 02:02 PM CST
JERRY BECK BECK BULK HANKAMER, TX 510 Posts, 44 +, 5 -	JERRY BECK BECK BULK - HANKAMER, TX Here's a quote from and Overdrive article. If this is true then just how many more safety rules dreamed up by the ATA and Trial Lawyers Assoc can we stand ? As usual I've sent my senators and congressman their weekly emails to complain. the death toll in truck-involved crashes rose seventeen percent (17%) between 2009 and 2013.

Replied on Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:01 AM CST
DUSTIN MYERS MYERS TRANSPORT LLC Springfield, MO 16 Posts, 20 +, 0 -	DUSTIN MYERS MYERS TRANSPORT LLC - Springfield, MO I red somewhere recently they they've declined. I'll have to see where that info came from. Then again, maybe it was crashes in general, not death toll. I want to see all incident numbers drop but i don't think regs will do it, at least not on the hos end. It's got to be in training and shippers, etc. who force drivers into awkward drive times and above all, FOUR WHEELER EDUCATION. People don't pay attention and don't know how to drive with big trucks. If be willing to bet that at least half of those accidents were the fault of the four wheeler.

Replied on Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:01 AM CST

DUSTIN MYERS

MYERS TRANSPORT LLC

Springfield, MO

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DUSTIN MYERS

MYERS TRANSPORT LLC - Springfield, MO

I red somewhere recently they they've declined. I'll have to see where that info came from. Then again, maybe it was crashes in general, not death toll. I want to see all incident numbers drop but i don't think regs will do it, at least not on the hos end. It's got to be in training and shippers, etc. who force drivers into awkward drive times and above all, FOUR WHEELER EDUCATION. People don't pay attention and don't know how to drive with big trucks. If be willing to bet that at least half of those accidents were the fault of the four wheeler.

Replied on Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:37 PM CST
ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC MORRISTOWN, AZ 604 Posts, 3 +, 2 -	ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC - MORRISTOWN, AZ HOS of service rules, especially ELD's aren't going to solve stupid. ELD's won't make a driver rest and spend his time wisely. They talk about death rates, but they don't take into consideration the change in the size of cities and the lack of making the freeways safer. They don't equate the crash rate wth the amount of vehicles add over the years. Any decent statistion can skew the numbers to back there side of the debate. Then we need to factor in safe parking. These people make it all sound so easy, but it isn't because we are REALLY talking about safety we are serving special interests that want to make money. I don't want anything to happen to anyone, but realistically there is always going to be people getting hurt in motor vehicles. We need to strive for more realistic expectations. We can legislate this to death, but a zero death rate will never happen. Art Pfluger

Replied on Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:37 PM CST

ROSE PFLUGER

ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC

MORRISTOWN, AZ

604 Posts, 3 +, 2 -

ROSE PFLUGER

ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC - MORRISTOWN, AZ

HOS of service rules, especially ELD's aren't going to solve stupid. ELD's won't make a driver rest and spend his time wisely. They talk about death rates, but they don't take into consideration the change in the size of cities and the lack of making the freeways safer. They don't equate the crash rate wth the amount of vehicles add over the years. Any decent statistion can skew the numbers to back there side of the debate. Then we need to factor in safe parking. These people make it all sound so easy, but it isn't because we are REALLY talking about safety we are serving special interests that want to make money. I don't want anything to happen to anyone, but realistically there is always going to be people getting hurt in motor vehicles. We need to strive for more realistic expectations. We can legislate this to death, but a zero death rate will never happen.

Art Pfluger

Replied on Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:41 PM CST
JERRY BECK BECK BULK HANKAMER, TX 510 Posts, 44 +, 5 -	JERRY BECK BECK BULK - HANKAMER, TX Amen Art. The old saying "Figures don't lie but liars can figure" comes to mind.

Replied on Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:08 AM CST
GLENN SELLHORST MCWIESER TRUCKING Fremont, NE 106 Posts, 3 +, 7 -	GLENN SELLHORST MCWIESER TRUCKING - Fremont, NE Originally Posted by: ROSE PFLUGER Quote: "HOS of service rules, especially ELD's aren't going to solve stupid. ELD's won't make a driver rest and spend his time wisely. They talk about death rates, but they don't take into consideration the change in the size of cities and the lack of making the freeways safer. They don't equate the crash rate wth the amount of vehicles add over the years. Any decent statistion can skew the numbers to back there side of the debate. Then we need to factor in safe parking. These people make it all sound so easy, but it isn't because we are REALLY talking about safety we are serving special interests that want to make money. I don't want anything to happen to anyone, but realistically there is always going to be people getting hurt in motor vehicles. We need to strive for more realistic expectations. We can legislate this to death, but a zero death rate will never happen. Art Pfluger" They think ELD's will be the answer well how many of these accidents are caused when the person in the auto is texted and driving or talking on there cell phone, we have all seen it, why don't they enforce that law, hell i've seen state patrol personal texting and driving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Replied on Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:08 AM CST

GLENN SELLHORST

MCWIESER TRUCKING

Fremont, NE

106 Posts, 3 +, 7 -

GLENN SELLHORST

MCWIESER TRUCKING - Fremont, NE

Originally Posted by: ROSE PFLUGER
Quote: "HOS of service rules, especially ELD's aren't going to solve stupid. ELD's won't make a driver rest and spend his time wisely. They talk about death rates, but they don't take into consideration the change in the size of cities and the lack of making the freeways safer. They don't equate the crash rate wth the amount of vehicles add over the years. Any decent statistion can skew the numbers to back there side of the debate. Then we need to factor in safe parking. These people make it all sound so easy, but it isn't because we are REALLY talking about safety we are serving special interests that want to make money. I don't want anything to happen to anyone, but realistically there is always going to be people getting hurt in motor vehicles. We need to strive for more realistic expectations. We can legislate this to death, but a zero death rate will never happen. Art Pfluger"

They think ELD's will be the answer well how many of these accidents are caused when the person in the auto is texted and driving or talking on there cell phone, we have all seen it, why don't they enforce that law, hell i've seen state patrol personal texting and driving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Replied on Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:22 PM CST
ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC MORRISTOWN, AZ 604 Posts, 3 +, 2 -	ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC - MORRISTOWN, AZ I also would like to know why law enforcement can drive with computers up and running while driving 75 mph in our state. What makes them safe?

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How many more rules ???